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Necromunda on 30 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Necromunda said:
JayWood2010 said:
Chark said:
Well yeah it is behind the scenes and I'm sure they are doing what they need to be doing, but isn't the phrase perception is reality? And because of it Sony gets better press right now, and their GDC presence was very dominant to the public. While not one sided for the developers.


Press means little to nothing almost a year before the release.  Who ever has the most attention during the holidays or launch is what you need to be looking at. Even E3 is way more important than anything that has happened in the first 6 months of the year.  GDC isnt even for gamers.  People made a big deal about nothing as usual. 


This is totally and completely a false statement just generally looking at how the market operates. They are giving Sony the time to build an image around the PS4 and what it offers without showing anything in response. I know a fair amount of XBOX Faithfuls who are constantly getting more and more hyped with stuff that is being shown for the PS4, if they get sold on the PS4 early, the Nextbox will need an enormous showing to sway the people back whome have already been swayed. Hell, I know people who have pre-ordered the PS4 already based upon what has already been shown. 


WiiU and 3DS (Even vita had a bit of hype) was both hyped majorly. None of them was very successful in the first few months.  Launch is more important than anything done pre-release.  Pre-release helps but it's certainly not the most imprtant


What? WiiU had minimal hype outside of the internet communities. Most people I knew who saw the WiiU thought it was lame. 



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Jaywood2010 on 30 March 2013
Necromunda said:
JayWood2010 said:
Necromunda said:
JayWood2010 said:
Chark said:
Well yeah it is behind the scenes and I'm sure they are doing what they need to be doing, but isn't the phrase perception is reality? And because of it Sony gets better press right now, and their GDC presence was very dominant to the public. While not one sided for the developers.


Press means little to nothing almost a year before the release.  Who ever has the most attention during the holidays or launch is what you need to be looking at. Even E3 is way more important than anything that has happened in the first 6 months of the year.  GDC isnt even for gamers.  People made a big deal about nothing as usual. 


This is totally and completely a false statement just generally looking at how the market operates. They are giving Sony the time to build an image around the PS4 and what it offers without showing anything in response. I know a fair amount of XBOX Faithfuls who are constantly getting more and more hyped with stuff that is being shown for the PS4, if they get sold on the PS4 early, the Nextbox will need an enormous showing to sway the people back whome have already been swayed. Hell, I know people who have pre-ordered the PS4 already based upon what has already been shown. 


WiiU and 3DS (Even vita had a bit of hype) was both hyped majorly. None of them was very successful in the first few months.  Launch is more important than anything done pre-release.  Pre-release helps but it's certainly not the most imprtant


What? WiiU had minimal hype outside of the internet communities. Most people I knew who saw the WiiU thought it was lame. 


All you are doing is further proving my point




       

mushroomboy5 on 30 March 2013

I hear ms gave up the minute they saw KNACK.



walsufnir on 30 March 2013

"Microsoft has always been very developer centric with all of their platforms and that Sony is embracing that approach is wonderful."

 

That's the whole point of the story. MS has always delivered good tools for development and always made developing games easy for devs. Sony does it nextgen also and everybody thinks "wow, Sony is so smart to do so!" but actually they are just keeping up with what MS always did. All this talk from devs that talking to MS is awful and Sony is so nice to devs seems like bought comments. I don't know the truth, of course, it's just an assumption. 



think-man on 30 March 2013

Makes me think the that M$ under estimated Sony and made the 720 to weak so now they are changing it cause they knew it would get stomped. :/



 

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tres on 30 March 2013
HaloFailo said:
kain_kusanagi said:

Anyone that thinks MS has their head in the sand is kidding themselves. MS is waiting in the shadows for the right time to strike.


Training their skills with Fruit Ninja?

I mean everyone should be aware that developers and some others know what they can expect from the NextBox.
When people like Ubisoft say AssaCreed4 will be the best on the PS4 out of ALL Platforms they obviously have seen and worked on both.

Sony had the need to use the effect of surprise cause they had a lot to fix and convince others.
People are now aware the PS4 is a beast and everything gamers and developers wished for and that it won't be a 2nd PS3 at the start.
They did their job right and had the right timing - Microsoft doesn't really need that right now but of course they  probably don't like that every game is connected with the PS4 and everyone talks about it just cause their own console is still called a "rumor NextGen Console" no one is able to talk about.

or they put more effort into ps4 version...

ubisoft didnt show up at microsoft conference last year neither discuss anything xbox at theirs if i recall.   and if x version is getting exclusive content which version would "be better"

thats like saying destiny will be better on ps4 when it might not be.   but bungie could have said it



walsufnir on 30 March 2013
think-man said:
Makes me think the that M$ under estimated Sony and made the 720 to weak so now they are changing it cause they knew it would get stomped. :/

You really think that MS knew about PS4-hardware just when it was presented publicly? There were even rumors about the hardware publicly available *for everyone* on the internet but MS was surprised? Really? Oh wait, yes, Sony decided to go with 8 gb ram... Which was rumored for 720 before - so Sony decided to offer as much ram as MS, not the other way round. But keep your opinion ;)



Subie_Greg on 30 March 2013

We've heard the rumors of what Microsoft is doing this coming gen. Heavy casual push and kinect with every purchase. Seems like they are trying to duplicate the Wii success. With the Wii U not selling as expected, I wonder if Microsoft is rethinking their plans.

And it looks as though the PS4 will be far more powerful than the NextBox... not a little but a lot. Makes sense though if you think about it. Microsoft has to price the NextBox at or lower than the PS4. They can't match the PS4 spec wise, plus add kinect with every console and hope to price it on par with Sony's console. Not without losing a butt ton of money. Guess they could sell it at $300 with 2 year contract :(

I am sure Halo and COD fans will still buy it. But if Sony offers the PS4 at/around the same price... ouch



Necromunda on 30 March 2013
walsufnir said:
think-man said:
Makes me think the that M$ under estimated Sony and made the 720 to weak so now they are changing it cause they knew it would get stomped. :/

You really think that MS knew about PS4-hardware just when it was presented publicly? There were even rumors about the hardware publicly available *for everyone* on the internet but MS was surprised? Really? Oh wait, yes, Sony decided to go with 8 gb ram... Which was rumored for 720 before - so Sony decided to offer as much ram as MS, not the other way round. But keep your opinion ;)


The nextbox was rumored to have 8gb's of GDDR3 whilst the PS4 contains 8gb's of GDDR5, quite the monumental difference, sir. 



walsufnir on 30 March 2013
Necromunda said:
walsufnir said:
think-man said:
Makes me think the that M$ under estimated Sony and made the 720 to weak so now they are changing it cause they knew it would get stomped. :/

You really think that MS knew about PS4-hardware just when it was presented publicly? There were even rumors about the hardware publicly available *for everyone* on the internet but MS was surprised? Really? Oh wait, yes, Sony decided to go with 8 gb ram... Which was rumored for 720 before - so Sony decided to offer as much ram as MS, not the other way round. But keep your opinion ;)


The nextbox was rumored to have 8gb's of GDDR3 whilst the PS4 contains 8gb's of GDDR5, quite the monumental difference, sir.

Wrong, it's just DDR3, not GDDR3. And yes, it is a difference but how it will turn out in the whole system will be seen. It's not as easy as just compare every single component and say "Winner!".