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VGKing said:
The lack of these big-name 3rd party titles is what killed the Wii.(Of course Nintendo had some part in this as well)

Even though Wii U is getting some big games such as AC and Watch Dogs, its still missing some major franchises. The ones it did get didn't sell very well at launch so I think the future of 3rd party support for Wii U won't be much different than that of the Wii.

 

If you call selling 99 million units "killed" anyway. It was a lack of software in general that caused Wii's sales to stall. The Wii didn't need big name third party titles to sell units. After 2010, the Wii's software releases slowed to a trickle, with only two releases of any note in 2011 and almost nothing at all in 2012. No major Nintendo titles, let alone third party. Coincidentally, that's also when Wii's sales went into a downward spiral from which it would never reover.

Just look at 3DS. All it needed was a price cut, Mario 3D Land, and Mario Kart, and the system started selling great. Not saying it WILL happen with Wii U, as it is in a different situation from the 3DS, but it COULD, and it's too early to say whether or not it will.



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VGKing said:
RazorDragon said:

It wasn't until 2011, concidentally the year that Nintendo stopped supporting the Wii, that it slowed down sales-wise. Before 2011, Wii also didn't had any of the biggest, most popular titles out there(except CoD) and it was way ahead of the PS3/360 sales wise. 

It's been said before but the Wii was a fad. It was riding that wave of popularity until that wave crashed onto the shore. Wii Sports alone sold 50% of the Wii's out there.

I'm not sure what we're talking about now. Anyway, it's not possible to say that the Wii was a fad or not, as this is a highly subjective matter.



The PS3 is only a fad that will stop selling well eventually. It'll probably coincide with a lack of software support from Sony, but I assure you that that it PURELY coincidental, just as it was when the Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2 and N64 fads finally died down!



AnthonyW86 said:
VGKing said:


G A M E C U B E

Where did you people get the N from? Nintendo? If anything it should be NGC.

NGC is Wii: Nintendo Gamecube with new Controls.

LOL. Clever .

Reading this thread wasn't a waste after all, thanks!



I read this thread after having seen this weeks sales.....:)



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This thread became a joke in less than a day



VGKing said:
The lack of these big-name 3rd party titles is what killed the Wii.(Of course Nintendo had some part in this as well)

Even though Wii U is getting some big games such as AC and Watch Dogs, its still missing some major franchises. The ones it did get didn't sell very well at launch so I think the future of 3rd party support for Wii U won't be much different than that of the Wii.

but the WiiU is getting 7th gen Sony and MS titles on their 8th gen system.  I know WiiU is early, but that's like congradulating Wii for getting Okami or something.  Watch Dogs will hopefully show WiiU's strength but it may be too late as the PS4 version will look even better.  I guess it all depends on PS4 pricing.  If it's $50 more than WiiU I feel like people will flock to it instead.  If it's $450 or $400 and WiiU gets a $50 cut before it comes out then we'll see a lot less people willing to pay the extra price.  If it's $500 and WiiU is $300 then we'll see a pretty darn good holiday for WiiU I think (of course MS would also have to be $500 but I don't think either will be).




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UltimateUnknown said:

I think people are sorely missing OP's point.

OP isn't saying that Wii U won't get a hardware boost from software because it most certainly will. What the OP is saying is that in the long run Nintendo's 1st party support alone, as great as it may be, won't be enough to rival the massive library of games the PS4/720 will get from 1st party and 3rd party combined, because at this point 3rd parties aren't really supporting Wii U (doesn't seem like they will in the future either) and thus 3rd part software also becomes de facto exclusives for PS4/720. Thus this will lead to most consumers choosing PS4/720 over Wii U because of better hardware and more software.

The Wii is being considered an anomaly and what is being said is that although 1st party software will get decent sales, Wii U is not going to be able to keep first place this gen and go back to how Nintendo performed before Wii.

Anyway this is of course nothing but a prediction and given the gaming industry's tendencies of taking crazy turns, I wouldn't be 100% sure on anything. Maybe 3rd partis will all abandon the PS4/720 next year and start developing only for the Wii U.

This makes sense. Perfectly said and completely reasonable.



I short of agree with the opening post that software will not help the WiiU boost its sales. But that's the thing, software in general will not help, what will help is Nintendo playing its strengths.

Neither Battlefield nor CoD are Nintendo's strengths. That's the department of the bro console for example, that's xbox territory.

The only viable genre -outside the usual first party titles- for the WiiU are rpgs, simple as that. The only way for Nintendo to make its system relevant again is to make the WiiU an rpg powerhouse.