JayWood2010 said:
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Your points are valid but i think its the way you are putting them across thats rubbing people up the wrong way. These are rumours and people will draw their own conclusions, just as you have.
JayWood2010 said:
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Your points are valid but i think its the way you are putting them across thats rubbing people up the wrong way. These are rumours and people will draw their own conclusions, just as you have.
Squint_Eastwood said:
Your points are valid but i think its the way you are putting them across thats rubbing people up the wrong way. These are rumours and people will draw their own conclusions, just as you have. |
I dont mind that Im rubbing people the wrong way. People are not thinking things through as usual and just jump to conclusions regardless of the overall picture.
Anyways i'm not saying I'm right or wrong because really i dont know just like everyone else. What I do know is that used games being blocked most certainly does not spell doom when in fact it is the opposite.
First off, I know you copied this from elsewhere, but you don't need the "lmao at the comments in this thread" part. You could have, and should have, edited that away. You also complain about rumor and conjecture, then launch into absolute speculation with the EA giving Microsoft timed exclusives in exchange for blocking used games thing.
As for the "always on, always connected" line, that's nothing. As others have said, it's likely just "has sleep mode, can auto-update from sleep mode." It's just going to be faster from "on" to gaming and will probably be like PS+ where you can schedule everything to DL/update when you're asleep. It will be interesting to see what is tied to a subscription, though.
While it's no more than speculation, the idea that the 720's "all games play from the HDD" philosophy could be linked to DRM is one that bears considering. It's sounds exactly like the PC model, after all, which typically eliminates used game sales.
It also sounds kind of annoying, to be honest. Hopefully they aren't heavy-handed with it. I know that I'm someone who will try a new game, take it out after 10 minutes, and put something else back in, just because I'm not in the mood for that new game at the time. I would hope that you can do that instantly and without problem, otherwise it would be very inconvenient. It better be at least a 1TB HDD, as well, or it's going to get frustrating fast. My 320 PS3 stays crammed full.
pokoko said: First off, I know you copied this from elsewhere, but you don't need the "lmao at the comments in this thread" part. You could have, and should have, edited that away. You also complain about rumor and conjecture, then launch into absolute speculation with the EA giving Microsoft timed exclusives in exchange for blocking used games thing. As for the "always on, always connected" line, that's nothing. As others have said, it's likely just "has sleep mode, can auto-update from sleep mode." It's just going to be faster from "on" to gaming and will probably be like PS+ where you can schedule everything to DL/update when you're asleep. It will be interesting to see what is tied to a subscription, though. While it's no more than speculation, the idea that the 720's "all games play from the HDD" philosophy could be linked to DRM is one that bears considering. It's sounds exactly like the PC model, after all, which typically eliminates used game sales. It also sounds kind of annoying, to be honest. Hopefully they aren't heavy-handed with it. I know that I'm someone who will try a new game, take it out after 10 minutes, and put something else back in, just because I'm not in the mood for that new game at the time. I would hope that you can do that instantly and without problem, otherwise it would be very inconvenient. It better be at least a 1TB HDD, as well, or it's going to get frustrating fast. My 320 PS3 stays crammed full. |
I agree with everything you just said.
As far as the exclusive EA deal im just pointing out that people are not thinking about the entire situation.
JoeTheBro said: Sony has flat out said millions of times they are not blocking used games. The shady part comes from the fact they won't comment on what third parties do. |
Actually, their last official comments on it were that they were undecided... Sony is mindful of the issues and do not have an official answer to blocking used games yet.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/26/sony-mindful-of-industrys-issues-with-used-games-says-denny/
Sh1nn said: From DigitalFoundry twitter :
"No, the suggestions I've read suggest that the unit won't actually work without an internet connection."
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He's making that post based on the same rumors everyone else is seeing. The ones that are taking the very simple claim of "Always On" and stretching it to mean many things that are just wrong.
Based on the latest SDK leak, all the actual info about "Always On" is to help keep games and the console updated and to give you instant access to your content. It never once even implied that you HAD to leave it always online, or that if it was not online that the console would not work. All that extra fluff was added by the tons of rumor spreading journalists.
JayWood2010 said: Installs are not new at all and most PS3 games require an install but i guess we are ignoring that. I think what they are trying to do is make it more like PC where you can just click on your games from your hard drive to change games rather than changing discs or possibly quicker load times. |
Unless Nextbox allows you to play any game as long as there's a disc of some description in your disc drive then this point is completely off point. You will always need to change discs to change games, to prove that you haven't sold on your disc but continue to play the game from your HDD (a la the original [modded] Xbox).
If always connected is what you suggest, then it's merely catching up with PS3 and nothing to get trerribly excited about. PSN+ members have this for updates as long as their internet connection is turned on and the PS3 is in sleep mode. The context of the nextgen discussion about internet connection is whether or not a live connection to the internet is required for a game to play. I think Edge are suggesting this for Nextbox, given the context of the broader discussion. What I don't believe is that MS would be that stupid. I do think wake up to update is a no-brainer so of course that will be a Nextbox feature. Always online for gameplay, no.
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Sh1nn said: From DigitalFoundry twitter :
"No, the suggestions I've read suggest that the unit won't actually work without an internet connection."
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DAMN, you know Eurogamer/Edge/vgleaks have been dead on with PS4 rumors, they'll most likely be true about the xbox3.
If the xbox won't work without internet connection, wow...
Simcity shenanigans all over your console
JayWood2010 said:
Oh so DRM wasnt created? Online passes? forget about that stuff or the fact that developers and publishers has wanted to block used games for years? |
What?? I bet you don't even realize you turned a rumor into a fact. Wasn't that the original point of your OP? Maybe you forgot?
I would address the rest of your reply, but it seems like it was all predicated on the rumor you turned into a fact in your own head.
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adriane23 said:
What?? I bet you don't even realize you turned a rumor into a fact. Wasn't that the original point of your OP? Maybe you forgot? I would address the rest of your reply, but it seems like it was all predicated on the rumor you turned into a fact in your own head. |
I'm saying both are speculation at the moment but sense you dont want to debate on the subject your comment in general was pretty needless.