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J_Allard said:
PullusPardus said:

Is everyone butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted? or its just me?

it has more playability than all three uncharted games, seriously guys stop bitching and go play it, its not a ripp off , its much better.


No its not just you. That's been the reaction of Uncharted fanatics everywhere. Idk if I'd say its because it's "better" since that is purely subjective, but it clearly rustled some jimmies that this game they have been blowing off for months as some cheap Uncharted knockoff is actually an incredible reboot that is nothing like Uncharted, and is getting great acclaim critically and great sales. I mean look at one of the first replies... apparently Uncharted was the first game to have elements of mystical legends or magic. Nevermind that these things have been in Tomb Raider since the 90's when the series began. It's only in there now because Uncharted actually invented it lol.

actually uncharted fans are, for the most part, the most ones excited about this game. and whats wrong with the first reply? he just stated a fact that just like this game, in the beginning of the development the addition of phantasy was considered and at some point wanted, and just like this game the developers/publisher decided not to go with it

"it's only there now because uncharted actually invented it lol" what an ignorant statement, these concept art where not shown on this forum until this thread, so the uncharted "fantacis" who posted in this thread are the only "fantacis" to talk about this concept art, where did anyone say that uncharted invented fantasy? taking into consideration that uncharted doesnt even have fantasy in it?! honestly this statement is so ignorant im finding a hard time explain how it is



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PullusPardus said:

Is everyone butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted? or its just me?

it has more playability than all three uncharted games, seriously guys stop bitching and go play it, its not a ripp off , its much better.


Whether you like Uncharted or not the fact still remains that the concept art of this potential game still looks like Shadow of the Colossus. Many people have been ripping Sony these days and Crystal Dynamics wouldn't be the first. Of course Sony had to take from others too but they've been setting standards themselves that others have tried to reach.



bananaking21 said:
Wright said:
bananaking21 said:
Wright said:
nnodley said:

Yeah, I have read too many post spoiling a game or movie for me.  I always warn people because of that and just out of respect to not spoil it for people.

You're cool :3

what about me? am i not cool? why do you hate me wright? why do you push me away when i show you nothing but love? why wright? why?

My, my! I didn't know you were so jealous!

Here *Kisses cheek*. Hope you're satisfied now!


in your face nnodely! he didnt kiss you!

That's what you think!!  



Wright said:
nnodley said:

Yeah, I have read too many post spoiling a game or movie for me.  I always warn people because of that and just out of respect to not spoil it for people.


You're cool :3

AWWW Thanks!! *blushes*



Uncharted was originally a 'fantasy' game

Uncharted has become the series it is today thanks to Sony feeling pressure from the success of Xbox with its 'gritty shooters', an ex-Naughty Dog developer has revealed.

Talking exclusively to Play, Don Poole, former Environment Modeller at Naughty Dog, explains how Uncharted: Drake's Fortune was originally a 'fantasy' game until orders came from Sony to make it more 'realistic'.

"We were talking about a more 'realistic' game in terms of how it was modelled and rendered but the concepts were much more far out. One was a forest world where the antagonists lived underground," explained Poole.

"It had elements of Tolkien in for sure. Sony kept pushing for a more realistic game in all respects. The market had changed a lot by then. The demographic was older and gritty shooters were really dominating. Sony wanted very much to get into that market share, it pushed all of its developers in this direction."

"So the big push from Sony, not just at Naughty Dog but at all of Sony's development companies at the time, was to craft games for PlayStation 3 that were much more realistic. The pressure from Xbox's success with gritty shooters was a very real force on our direction at that time."

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1063301/naughty_dog_gritty_xbox_shooters_shaped_uncharted.html



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bananaking21 said:
J_Allard said:
PullusPardus said:

Is everyone butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted? or its just me?

it has more playability than all three uncharted games, seriously guys stop bitching and go play it, its not a ripp off , its much better.


No its not just you. That's been the reaction of Uncharted fanatics everywhere. Idk if I'd say its because it's "better" since that is purely subjective, but it clearly rustled some jimmies that this game they have been blowing off for months as some cheap Uncharted knockoff is actually an incredible reboot that is nothing like Uncharted, and is getting great acclaim critically and great sales. I mean look at one of the first replies... apparently Uncharted was the first game to have elements of mystical legends or magic. Nevermind that these things have been in Tomb Raider since the 90's when the series began. It's only in there now because Uncharted actually invented it lol.

actually uncharted fans are, for the most part, the most ones excited about this game. and whats wrong with the first reply? he just stated a fact that just like this game, in the beginning of the development the addition of phantasy was considered and at some point wanted, and just like this game the developers/publisher decided not to go with it

"it's only there now because uncharted actually invented it lol" what an ignorant statement, these concept art where not shown on this forum until this thread, so the uncharted "fantacis" who posted in this thread are the only "fantacis" to talk about this concept art, where did anyone say that uncharted invented fantasy? taking into consideration that uncharted doesnt even have fantasy in it?! honestly this statement is so ignorant im finding a hard time explain how it is


Stopped reading at the bolded.

No way you are serious lol.



Nsanity said:

Uncharted was originally a 'fantasy' game

Uncharted has become the series it is today thanks to Sony feeling pressure from the success of Xbox with its 'gritty shooters', an ex-Naughty Dog developer has revealed.

Talking exclusively to Play, Don Poole, former Environment Modeller at Naughty Dog, explains how Uncharted: Drake's Fortune was originally a 'fantasy' game until orders came from Sony to make it more 'realistic'.

"We were talking about a more 'realistic' game in terms of how it was modelled and rendered but the concepts were much more far out. One was a forest world where the antagonists lived underground," explained Poole.

"It had elements of Tolkien in for sure. Sony kept pushing for a more realistic game in all respects. The market had changed a lot by then. The demographic was older and gritty shooters were really dominating. Sony wanted very much to get into that market share, it pushed all of its developers in this direction."

"So the big push from Sony, not just at Naughty Dog but at all of Sony's development companies at the time, was to craft games for PlayStation 3 that were much more realistic. The pressure from Xbox's success with gritty shooters was a very real force on our direction at that time."

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1063301/naughty_dog_gritty_xbox_shooters_shaped_uncharted.html

Seems Sony/ND has MS to thank for the success of Uncharted. What an M Night SAhjsnkndknkilan twist.



KylieDog said:
PullusPardus said:

Is everyone butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted? or its just me?

it has more playability than all three uncharted games, seriously guys stop bitching and go play it, its not a ripp off , its much better.


It isn't better than Uncharted, Uncharted has better story, better characters (entire cast), more refined combat, better set-piece action scenes etc etc.

Tomb Raider has tried to copy Uncharted but it just doesn't have the same talent behind it.  TR writing is crap, the characters are crap, the puzzles crap, the locations forgettable, the exploration a complete falsehood. 

Simply put, TR was better off when it didn't take itself seriously and had an over the top Lara with over the top settings, monsters, real puzzles and platforming, not the inferior Uncharted clone it is now.

A lot of people putting down TR aren't Uncharted fans, they are long time Tomb Raider fans who have seen the series suddenly abandon what it as all about. 


QFT.



PullusPardus said:

Is everyone butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted? or its just me?

it has more playability than all three uncharted games, seriously guys stop bitching and go play it, its not a ripp off , its much better.


Your sentence structure seems to imply that you're butthurt because Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted. Snide posts like this may not be your forte. 



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nnodley said:
bananaking21 said:
nnodley said:
adriane23 said:
So they decided to copy another set of games instead? (This is my impersonation of a Badgenome post)

I hope they take Tomb Raider back to the mythological stuff though.

Well the new Tomb Raider did have some mythological stuff in it.  

***SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT***

***END SPOILERS***

finally! someone on this site who warns about spoilers before saying them!

Yeah, I have read too many post spoiling a game or movie for me.  I always warn people because of that and just out of respect to not spoil it for people.


Yeah, thanks for that. I plan on getting Tomb Raider sometime this Summer, so I skipped all of what you wrote after the spoiler alert.



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