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Forums - Gaming - God of War: Ascension has the best gameplay in the series' history. UPDATE: (Omg, I finished it! 9.3/10)

bananaking21 said:
dane007 said:
plaZeHD said:
shinsa said:
bananaking21 said:
GoW A BY FAR has the best hack and slash gameplay in any game. the mechanics and gameplay are deep, its no where near buttons smashing. how this is getting reviews around the 80 is beyond me.


ahahahah....no it doesn't. 

It has the best for a GOW game i repect and agree with the TC there, but most definitly not the best this or last gen.

One could argue for best graphics!

Name a game that has a better hack and slash game-play mechanics than God Of War: Ascension.


DMC  old and teh reboot adn bayonetta. theres plenty right there :)

how do they have better gameplay?

The combat system in either of the games i mentioned above , is far mroe complex than any GOW series. The list of moves you get in those games is hell alot more then what you have in GOW  . The way in which yo execute the moves in DMC games or even bayonetta or Ninja gaiden the original on the xbox ( the best hack and slash to date and the only good ninja gaiden game) is far more complex  and  has more depth than GOW because  its not just tappin the  attack button. For example Some moves in bayonetta involves pressing doing a quarter circle with teh attack buttons to perform the moves  therfore to string teh combos in those games are far more skillful then any GOW games. What i am trying to say is  that GOW gameplay is very simple



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dane007 said:
bananaking21 said:

how do they have better gameplay?

The combat system in either of the games i mentioned above , is far mroe complex than any GOW series. The list of moves you get in those games is hell alot more then what you have in GOW  . The way in which yo execute the moves in DMC games or even bayonetta or Ninja gaiden the original on the xbox ( the best hack and slash to date and the only good ninja gaiden game) is far more complex  and  has more depth than GOW because  its not just tappin the  attack button. For example Some moves in bayonetta involves pressing doing a quarter circle with teh attack buttons to perform the moves  therfore to string teh combos in those games are far more skillful then any GOW games. What i am trying to say is  that GOW gameplay is very simple

I will say I agree with you there. I won’t say it is THE best action game ever created, because titles like that are highly subjective. However, from a personal perspective I find it is the best action game that I’ve played, and I’ve played them all (so for me it is the best).

But I am curious. Would you compare Burnout to Gran Turismo? They’re both racing games, but they’re very different and cater to different people. As a result, to me if you say one is better it’s really subjective and that’s actually a reflection of your personal preference. Gran Turismo and maybe Forza would be a better comparison. I would compare Bayonetta to DMC since they’re in the same vein, but GOW is different from those games you mentioned. GOW is meant to be more accessible, but accessibility doesn’t necessarily = simplicity. There is depth in the game, but it is derived differently from DMC and Bayonetta. Granted, I will admit it is not as complex in the sense that the execution in those games requires more dexterity on the part of the player. But that doesn’t suggest GOW is easy or simple, especially Ascension (button mashers beware). Fighting various mixtures of enemies with different attack patterns on hard or very hard is VERY tough. You have to employ everything in Kratos’ move set to stay afloat, and that is no easy feat. According to Gametrailers, you have every right to feel accomplished after racking up a combo count in GOW:A. That is a very telling statement, in my opinion. Also, I don’t see how having more moves is necessarily a good thing. Ryu has a shit load of moves in the NG games and I don’t use the majority because they’re virtually useless. Furthermore, Shinobi Hotsuma) on the PS2 only has a handful of moves, and that game is VERY challenging and complex given the limited move set. I think those qualities matter more, but that’s just my opinion.

Also. as for DMC … to be honest, the last decent DMC game was DMC3(combat wise). DMC4 was forced and very repetitive, and the combo system felt really artificial. That’s when I shifted to Ninja Gaiden almost completely. NG has a more natural feel to it and it’s more about pure undiluted action as opposed to racking up artificial combos. DMC3 was better in this regard.

 





 

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I hear its even worse than GOW3.



Jozu said:
I hear its even worse than GOW3.

You hear that from people that uses reviews as dogmas and uses them as their guide of what to buy or not to buy, but for most people who dont give a damn about reviews, and play the games they like (like me) I can say that the combat is terrific, and the game in general is better than GOW3.  Dont let the trolls convince you :P



Nah that wouldn't matter to the fans and most are saying it's not as good as GOW3. Seeing as GOW3 wasn't even as good as GOW2 either and now this one is even worse it may be one I'll get when it drops in price which probably wont be long.



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Jozu said:
Nah that wouldn't matter to the fans and most are saying it's not as good as GOW3. Seeing as GOW3 wasn't even as good as GOW2 either and now this one is even worse it may be one I'll get when it drops in price which probably wont be long.

That's your opinion... for me GoW 3 is the best of the saga with Ghost of Sparta. Ascension is less epic that the 3rd but gameplay wise it's even better.



LOL Jaywood2010 actually tried to argue that GoW was an overdone series and compared it to call of duty?

Sigh. Posters on our forum have really sunk to new lows.



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Heavenly_King said:

I agree. But still I wonder why most of the reviews are 7-8?? The graphics, gameplay, the pacing, the soundtrack is better in this game than in GOW3, (the story is different but good), but still the reviewera treat this like if it was crap in comparison, "but still a good game" I just dont get it, it is like if they were playing a completely different game.

The good thing at least is that the gamers are treating this game accordingly.

EDIT:  Also because of what you are writing, reviews are pointless.  They are always biased toward their likes and dislikes, which may be very diferent of what you actually enjoy.   I think this is the best case that represents this the better.  Because reviews are saying it is "good", while most of the people who is playing it say it is amazing.

Probably because if I go back and Play God of War 1 and play Ascension their isn't much of a difference in gameplay. 



dane007 said:
plaZeHD said:
shinsa said:
bananaking21 said:
GoW A BY FAR has the best hack and slash gameplay in any game. the mechanics and gameplay are deep, its no where near buttons smashing. how this is getting reviews around the 80 is beyond me.


ahahahah....no it doesn't. 

It has the best for a GOW game i repect and agree with the TC there, but most definitly not the best this or last gen.

One could argue for best graphics!

Name a game that has a better hack and slash game-play mechanics than God Of War: Ascension.


DMC  old and teh reboot adn bayonetta. theres plenty right there :)

What? Those are just bad examples. How are those games better than God Of War when it comes to combat?



dane007 said:
bananaking21 said:
dane007 said:
plaZeHD said:
shinsa said:
bananaking21 said:
GoW A BY FAR has the best hack and slash gameplay in any game. the mechanics and gameplay are deep, its no where near buttons smashing. how this is getting reviews around the 80 is beyond me.


ahahahah....no it doesn't. 

It has the best for a GOW game i repect and agree with the TC there, but most definitly not the best this or last gen.

One could argue for best graphics!

Name a game that has a better hack and slash game-play mechanics than God Of War: Ascension.


DMC  old and teh reboot adn bayonetta. theres plenty right there :)

how do they have better gameplay?

The combat system in either of the games i mentioned above , is far mroe complex than any GOW series. The list of moves you get in those games is hell alot more then what you have in GOW  . The way in which yo execute the moves in DMC games or even bayonetta or Ninja gaiden the original on the xbox ( the best hack and slash to date and the only good ninja gaiden game) is far more complex  and  has more depth than GOW because  its not just tappin the  attack button. For example Some moves in bayonetta involves pressing doing a quarter circle with teh attack buttons to perform the moves  therfore to string teh combos in those games are far more skillful then any GOW games. What i am trying to say is  that GOW gameplay is very simple

Really? I used to hear people saying "God Of War is a simple button smashing game", but when I first got in to the series with God Of War 3, tottaly different story. Skill is actually the most important when it comes to combat. You need to block, jump, roll, attack, use magic...ETC. You can do different moves on God Of War 3 too. 

Left Analog Stick walk, run
Right Analog Stick evade, target select
X Button jump
X Button + X Button double jump
X Button + X Button (Hold) icarus wings
Square Button normal attack
Triangle Button heavy attack
Triangle Button (Hold) launch and follow enemy into the air
Circle Button grab
Square Button battering ram (when holding certain enemies)
L1 Button block
L1 Button parry (if timed right)
L1 Button (Hold) + Circle Button combat grapple
R1 Button action, interact, grapple
R1 Button drop (while wall climbing or hanging on a ledge)
L2 Button (Hold) + X, Square or Triangle Button use items
R2 Button use magic
D-Pad Up, Down, Left or Right switch weapons
L3 Button + R3 Button rage of sparta
R1 Button (Hold) + X Button kick objects
Right Analog Stick Left or Right + R1 Button (Hold) rotate objects