No. Why deny people the right to medicine, just because they are old! Surely, if we are healthier than before, we can work for longer, which means the elderly will still be useful. Raising the retirement won't be popular, but purposely letting people die off would cause outrage among the general public.

Also, after the initial aging population period, which countries like Japan and Germany are currently experiencing, population will fall anyway and is already falling and eventually stabilise again. Germany has population growth of -0.1% now. You fail to understand human development, as there are 4 stages as shown in the graph.

This model is very much due to economic and technological development, as people are educated about reproduction and have higher access to medicine, birth rates and death rates fall as a result as the country develops, until they are both very low and population growth is flat. But now due to high life expectancy and low birth rates, population starts to fall as the death rate starts to increase, as the older generation dies off.   

So what would the point of denying people medicine anyway?

Also by saying this, is like paying off scientists too stop trying to find a cure for diseases like HIV, cancer or others? We are humans, we like to advance ourselves, denying people medicine because of their age is very backward thinking.

It's only a problem in Germany and Japan at the moment, but'll it'll start happening in other countries too, it's just something we'll have to deal with. As life expectancy increases, the years spent living in good health will increase as well, although not at the same rate.

The elderly should not be euthanized at all but elongating the life of someone against their will is wrong. There will be people who want to hang on as long as possible but that does cost money and it really depends on who is paying for it. If it is their money, go right ahead, it pays the doctor's salary who is what you would qualify as a contributing member of society. It also pays for the manufacturing of medical equipment, etc. etc. technically making that elderly person contribute to society. As a society that uses a monetary system we as people are able to accomplish a task in exchange for liquid asset, money. Essentially money = work so even after you stop working the money you have is acquired and stored up work. This system is what allows citizens to contribute after retirement, not to mention the actual accomplishments they did in life outside of accumulating money. A man who cured cancer would have contributed more to society than most anybody multifold long after he goes into retirement.

Also, we won't go Logan's run on everybody.

Not at all- we'll just have to deal with the issues in another way

do you mean this?

Yeah we'll just terraform Mars and it'll all be fine again :P

It is also possible to terraform Venus as well? I think it's in the 'goldy locks' zone, but could you easily change all the sulfur in the atmosphere to breathable gases? 

humans will never be able to prolong life into the hundreds of years. imagine if people only died of normal old age and nothing ells like wars, diseases, disasters or accidents. humans would most likely have been extinct by now

I mentioned this in one of the threads about religion but I'm not going into religion and I don't think anybody wants that either

and no we should not let people die when we can save them as that would be immoral we should also help old ladies (old people) on the buss if they need to sit for example

slightly off topic

This is similar to a topic i discused at work, Should we give money for children in africa to have medicine againt disease to prolong their life, only to see in the next advert their starving

Or we could just have less babies.

I think yes we probably ought to let people die, and we probably should start encouraging self termination. We as a society globally speaking need to undergo a serious culture shift when it comes to the subject of dieing. Being afraid of death is no kind of justification for engaging in what amounts to anti social behavior. People at the end of their lives are entitled to a retirement, but not an unreasonable one.

When any segment is depleting the public coffers to such an extent as to seriously deprive other segments, or as a matter of coarse is placing a severe burden on other segments. It is fundamentally a unfair act on their part. The act of maintaining a poor quality of life. At the expense of creating a host more good ones. Is simply a perverse act. If an obscene amount of money is being spent to extend the life of a person by just a couple years. The real consequence is that younger generations will end up having their life spans decreased.

If a senior citizen on public assistance ends up costing the state fifty thousand dollars a year. That money would have the following benefit if it was otherwise spent. That money could feed, cloth, educate, and provide medical care for twenty five young children. Most of the world is fast approaching a point where that is going to be the choice at hand, and either we will continue as we have to our ultimate ruin, or we are going to have to go through a culture shift.

Where we stop looking at death as something to be delayed at all costs. To something we just have to accept as a part of how we plan out our lives. I think younger generations are going to learn something from their elders. They are going to learn that life needs to end with some very real dignity. I certainly don't intend to drag shit out as I get near the end of my life. When it becomes clear that I stand to become a real burden on others. I fully intend to do the right thing. To me it is morally wrong to force others to suffer for my own selfish purposes.

It isn't just the suffering of society as a whole for that matter either. When the severely aged cling to life no matter what. They drag their family and friends along for the ride. People who whether they are asked to do it or not. Will start making serious sacrifices to tend to the needs of those they care about. No matter how fruitless that effort is ultimately. I really don't understand why some people do this to their families. I think we need to get rid of this whole taboo about suicide. It most certainly isn't wrong if it is being done for the right reasons.