What the Hell are you talking about? There are still a lot of people that play prebuilt systems. It's their choice to overspend, you can still pay far less. Also, 99.9999% of people build these PC's because it is fun. No one ever said consoles are stupid. It's really annoying to hear that PC's aren't a viable option though. Also I am not in an IT profession. I want to do thing with biology or genetics, and I am a 17 year old. One of my friends started building at like 13 years old. 

Why can't you get that everyone is saying that it is worth it? That's all this thread is saying. You can buy it seperatley, and that game pad is nothing special anyways. I am saying in that sentence that the only real advantage consoles have is they have good price per performance. I don't see how that is hard to get.  Once again a 13 year old can put together a PC, you really don't have to be that tech savy. The only part that is hard is hooking the case buttons to  the motherboard. Also, this can't be to small of a niche market if almost everone knows at least a few people who have built them. You can also notice that there are a lot of websites that are completely dedicated to selling these parts. 

I get what you saying. Im just saying that what you saying is bullshit

You say that like all steam games are natively supported on linux?

Oh great add 250 to the price of that PC now where are with total cost? lol. And not to mention the functionality will not be the same.

Your last point is kinda true. A 7970 mobile edition is pretty much equavalent to a desktop 7870. Which is  approximately whats inside the ps4 (a bit less but really the performance of a 7850 and 7870 are close for the most part).

So yeah you can get PS4 level performance in a laptop. Hmmm i seem to have forgotten the price of laptops with that kinda gpu power though, care to remind me?

How is it bullshit? You can very easily build a PC, it is in no way hard. If you don't want to, that is your choice, but don't put down people that do. I am not going to put down someone who only buys consoles, it is a very viable option. For PC parts, look at newegg, tigerdirect, microcenter, fry, amazon, ebay. I am tried of your malicous attacks at people who build pcs. You have yet to back up any claims you make. Everyone who posts on the PC side  has provide links, and you just say we are providing misinfomation. Once again, notice how no PC person is saying consoles are stupid, we are saying the building you own is a viable option. Jesus christ why can't you just fucking realize that?

The 7850 uses 105w and the i3 uses 65w.  With everything else it would come to 200w-250w.  Does that really worry you?  If anything the PSU is just as high quality as the ones in consoles.

Not all graphics cards use a lot of power.  Through undervolting I am able to run my 7970 at stock speed with only 120w.

Average console gamers just don't build their own PC's its that simple. So in my opinion this really isnt a viable option for the majority of console gamers. And certainly Not at the ~$300 - ~$400 price.  This pretty much sums up my issues and arguments on the matter. Its not about consoles vs PC's, consoles are stupid or whatever (i really dont know where you got that from?). So im out. My point is clear and still stands.

Well. For starters... 99% of people already have a PC.
99% of PC's built in the last 4-5 years just need a new graphics card (Sometimes a better PSU) and they can then play games at medium/high quality settings.
Upgrading a PC is so easy, AMD demonstrated a monkey doing it, I'm not kidding...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPQW0e9ufM

Also if you look at anything that's a Core 2 Quad/Phenom 2 x4/x6 @ 3ghz or better, you're pretty much set for any game if you pair it up with a several generation old Radeon 5850 or better which can be found cheap second hand, and would still slaughter at 720P.

Then  factor in the fact that games are cheaper... And I sometimes wonder why consoles even exist.

Because it is bullshit. I built all my own PC's. I started buying my own components when i was about 14 years old. I built my first entire PC from nothing when i was about 19. I built my most recent one last year. So yeah I'm not on some crusade against PC builders and gamers, i am one. It is a viable option, ofcourse it is, but not at the price people were putting forward and not as easy as people were making it out to be for the average person. What dont you get about this?

And lets be honest here...go to the first page of the thread and look at the builds going around and look at the prices been thrown around then come back to me. Some random guy who doestn build PC's comes into the thread and sees those builds and thinks to himself "wow those PC's are really cheap and really powerfull" Uhm no. Missing costs I already pointed out, functionality will be missing if you buy that cheap, its misleading. And i really don't think its necesary to go to each build and point out the flaws. They should be obvious to a PC builder like yourself . They certainly were to me.

And I'm not attacking you, not once did I insult anyone here. But i am amazed though at the comments. Average console gamers just don't build their own PC's its that simple. So in my opinion this really isnt a viable option for the majority of console gamers. And certainly Not at the ~$300 - ~$400 price.  This pretty much sums up my issues and arguments on the matter. Its not about consoles vs PC's, consoles are stupid or whatever (i really dont know where you got that from?). So im out. My point is clear and still stands.

Edit: Just to add to my final point, the direct comparisons between PC's and consoles is also silly. You not just buying a normal PC with a different form factor. There are other factors that come into play when you buy a console. I also take issue with your opinion that when you buy a console, ultimately you are just buying PC parts. Its really not that simple.