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Cold-Flipper on 01 March 2013

You should rename the thread. Should be "My Problems With Nintendo" your OP doesn't have much to do with PS4 or Durango.

OT: 3DS is an amazing system and I personally don't find it to be outdated at all. The graphics are great for a HH system and the 3D still wows me to be honest. The games are still lacking a bit 2 years later though but 2013 looks to be changing that for sure!

As for the Wii U? Don't have one and don't know anybody who has one so I can't properly judge it. With that said, Wii U does look a bit outdated in many respects. The real problem lies with innovation though. Back in 2006, Wii was very outdated in terms of both power and online too. Wii seemed futuristic and ahead of its time in terms of motion controls though. (Just like the DS had a touch screen and duel screens) This time around, Nintendo took the same approach again but this time their "innovation" isn't all that innovative. They still have time to prove the Gamepad, but at this time I must agree with you. Wii U seems very outdated...



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pokoko on 01 March 2013

All I get from the OP is that Nintendo and Sony are lucky to live in a world where the Xbox brand has done so much for gaming. Wah.

As for the rest, Sony and Microsoft have a business model where they change and adapt to new trends and different tastes. Nintendo's model has always been one where they make the device the way they want it to be, which customers can either take or leave. They're very, very slow to go after new core customers or those who are looking for more variety. Intentional or not, that's how they are. They definitely don't appeal to everyone--they seem to be trying to change that with the Wii U, but only kind of. They're niche somewhat by design.



Otakumegane on 01 March 2013
Pokeslob said:
I feel this 100%
I honestly consider Wii U to be 7th gen... unless of course NextBox is terribly unimpressive, in which case we'll just say ps4 is 9th gen ;D
all kidding aside, I've seen dev specs for the 720, so that statement is invalid.
but honestly, nintendo is just not keeping up and it doesn't seem like they care.
people say it's because game quality rules over technical superiority, while valid, nintendo is just shitting out games right now, and they really aren't bringing anything new to the table (still fun, just unexciting and shallow).
No, Nintendo is just niche, and they know they have an army of blind fans and casual gamers that will back them up with any need for REAL innovation.

now I know I'm going to eat my words for saying "innovation" because clearly they revolutionized and standardized motion gaming, and yes that was "innovative," but motion gaming will not stick with the hardcore crowd, and the gaming fad as a whole will not stick with the casual crowd. honestly, (and this goes for all systems) motion gaming, touch screens, 3D, etc. are all super gimmicky and are the least important parts of making a good game! even the most amazing nintendo games we've played in recent history (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Super Mario 3D Land, Skyward Sword) they weren't great because you could touch them, they were 3D, you could flail your arms, they were fun because they had good stories, mechanics, and what have you. These game would have been JUST AS GOOD without the gimmicks!

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Jaywood2010 on 01 March 2013
pokoko said:
All I get from the OP is that Nintendo and Sony are lucky to live in a world where the Xbox brand has done so much for gaming. Wah.

As for the rest, Sony and Microsoft have a business model where they change and adapt to new trends and different tastes. Nintendo's model has always been one where they make the device the way they want it to be, which customers can either take or leave. They're very, very slow to go after new core customers or those who are looking for more variety. Intentional or not, that's how they are. They definitely don't appeal to everyone--they seem to be trying to change that with the Wii U, but only kind of. They're niche somewhat by design.


How did you come up with that?  Did i say anything bad about sony. NOT ONE bad thing did i say about them so maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions

I've made it obvious time after time that my PS3/X360 are my two favrite consoles not just of this generation, but of all time.  If you are ranting about me saying something about XBox Live that is simply because that is where it all started 11 years ago and it is sad that Nintendo has yet to catch up to PSN/XBL.

It is absolutely pathetic that ihave to tip toe around people like you who get offended over the smallest things.




       

Jaywood2010 on 01 March 2013
Cold-Flipper said:
You should rename the thread. Should be "My Problems With Nintendo" your OP doesn't have much to do with PS4 or Durango.

OT: 3DS is an amazing system and I personally don't find it to be outdated at all. The graphics are great for a HH system and the 3D still wows me to be honest. The games are still lacking a bit 2 years later though but 2013 looks to be changing that for sure!


Not exactly.  I love my 3DS and dont really have any complaints about it.  Very excited about Pokemon X/Y.  




       

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Jaywood2010 on 01 March 2013
Chandler said:

 

I agree, Nintendo has so many shooters that desperately need online functionality.


3rd parties do.  1st parties is not the issue with nintendo. It is 3rd party that has issues because other platforms are better for them due to more features 




       

Chandler on 01 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Chandler said:

 

I agree, Nintendo has so many shooters that desperately need online functionality.


3rd parties do.  1st parties is not the issue with nintendo. It is 3rd party that has issues because other platforms are better for them due to more features 


Last time I checked, third party games that need it are actually having online functionality. I don't see where Nintendo is blocking anyone in this regard.



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Jaywood2010 on 01 March 2013
Chandler said:
JayWood2010 said:
Chandler said:

 

I agree, Nintendo has so many shooters that desperately need online functionality.


3rd parties do.  1st parties is not the issue with nintendo. It is 3rd party that has issues because other platforms are better for them due to more features 


Last time I checked, third party games that need it are actually having online functionality. I don't see where Nintendo is blocking anyone in this regard.


And how is that comparison next to X360/PS3?  Side by side




       

justinian on 01 March 2013

All the "problems" you listed can be fixed. It is all software related and anything that can be fixed with software updates or manipulation is not really a "problem" in my books. Any modern console can fix software issues or capabilities.

My problem with the wi u are those "problems" that cannot be fix. What my problems are with the wii u is another subject and another thread so I won't expand on that.

Yes, I accept what I define to be "problems" may not quite fit your description.

The three things you listed can all be "fixed" if Nintendo think (as you do) that they are problems. Saying that, I hope that they do consider your point 3 to be a problem.



TheLastStarFighter on 01 March 2013

I would like online multiplayer in NSMBU. But future games will almost certainly have online multiplayer. I think achievments would also be nice, though MiiVerse does this a little bit, with being able to brag about perfect scores on a course and so on. It also takes it to another level with being able to gripe or ask for help in-game. There are some bugs to work out with Wii U, but so far it's been my favorite system to date and I haven't used my XBox since I bought it. I play Blops2 on it and thus save $50.

I'm not quite sure how Wii U treats anyone like kids and, while sales have flatlined, thus far Wii U is taking advantage of its head start more than 360 did.