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Turkish said:
Sucks the company he loved so much (Microsoft) send the FBI after him and lost everything.

If you would have actually read the Kotaku article you might have sounded a bit more intelligent, Turkish.

Microsoft says it has nothing to do with the FBI, in fact, while Microsoft did send a rep down with a PI, they actually worked with the guy to identify security issues.  Microsoft denied any involvement.  More than likely it was either Epic that did, a company he hacked, infiltrated, and obtained data from or Blizzard, a company he tried to hack into with very limited success.



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theprof00 said:
wasn't he also the one that said nextbox was builtin with kienct 2, and that xbox was having production problems, and that it was always online?


No.  He never claimed it was always online.  He never has confirmed Kinect 2 is built in but hes given detailed specs of it and released pictures of it as well as pictures of its programming files

Edit - Actually never mind he has confirmed Kinect 2 is built in



Adinnieken said:
Turkish said:
Sucks the company he loved so much (Microsoft) send the FBI after him and lost everything.

If you would have actually read the Kotaku article you might have sounded a bit more intelligent, Turkish.

Microsoft says it has nothing to do with the FBI, in fact, while Microsoft did send a rep down with a PI, they actually worked with the guy to identify security issues.  Microsoft denied any involvement.  More than likely it was either Epic that did, a company he hacked, infiltrated, and obtained data from or Blizzard, a company he tried to hack into with very limited success.

I read the article 2 days ago, so what if I had not read it, what has it to do with intelligence? Don't believe Microsoft when they say they didn't send the FBI. They most definetly sent the FBI after him. The search warrant also stated "game consoles", guess why.

If you read the article, Epic also sent him a poster of GeoW3, they didn't send the FBI, neither did Blizzard.

He was poking his nose into Microsoft most of the time.



BenVTrigger said:
theprof00 said:
wasn't he also the one that said nextbox was builtin with kienct 2, and that xbox was having production problems, and that it was always online?


No.  He never claimed it was always online.  He never has confirmed Kinect 2 is built in but hes given detailed specs of it and released pictures of it as well as pictures of its programming files

He said kienct was mandatory, and that all games required full installs upon putting the game in the console, adn that the processor was the Oban chip, which was having production problems relating to chips per wafer.



BenVTrigger said:
Sal.Paradise said:
BenVTrigger said:
Sal.Paradise said:

I'm reading the article now.

"Earlier this week, Sony officially announced the PlayStation 4 (the former Orbis), and it turned out that everything in the documentation Dylan had sent me—the names of the controller's buttons, the specs of its new touchpad, the specs for the console itself—were entirely correct"

^that links to this page http://kotaku.com/5986120/everything-weve-got-on-the-playstation-4-all-in-one-place

^which links to this page http://kotaku.com/5977849/the-playstation-4-has-a-new-controller-fancy-user-accounts-and-impressive-specs-so-far?tag=ps4

which reports that the PS4 will have 2.2GB of dedicated VRAM. Which is wrong. Shitaku being shitaku! 

My god man your argueing to argue now.  There cold facts.  We know he was right.  That was an early development kit.

Kotaku was the first to break MULTIPLE features of PS4 and their source was SuperDaE.  As i said your just arguing to argue now

Lol, I'm right though. Kotaku said they were "entirely correct", SuperDae was their source. But they weren't, they got key info wrong. That's it. 


No you have insurmountable evidence in front of you he was legit and are just arguing

Kotaku was the first to give detailed info on the new controller.  Who was their source?

Their GPU info was correct.  Who was their source?

They gave further detailed info about the share feature.  Who was their source?

They were the FIRST to unveil the code name Orbis.  Who was their source.

Epic confirmed SuperDaE hacked them.

MS confirmed SuperDaE hacked them.

Blizzard confirmed SuperDaE hacked them.

Your trying to argue one tiny point, that was likely real at one point and phazed out in development kits.  Theres no theory here we know SuperDaE was real

The 'it could've been a development kit' excuse doesn't check out, because Kotaku just said they got the specs completely right after the official, final,  specs were announced (and contradicted theirs when it comes to RAM).

Frankly, I don't have the stamina to go look up which were the very first leaks to mention share button, gpu info etc, but considering kotaku just blatantly lied about another spec, I don't have any confidence in what else they're saying they got right and got first. 



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No he doesnt say it has to always be online.  Heres Kotakus latest very detailed info on Durango strait from SuperDae.  At this point we can assume its all true or at least very close to accurate as 99% of his PS4 leak was right on the money including Share, the controller, the GPU, the touchpad etc.

http://m.kotaku.com/5982986/we-know-all-about-the-next-xbox-from-someone-who-says-theyve-got-one



And just for shits and giggles (now I'm really just arguing for the sake of it lol) some choice quotes:


 

"Over the next month he would tell me many, many things that were hard to believe. I'd eventually be able to confirm half of it. I was left to wonder about the rest."

"I never met him in person, and the only image I've seen of him is the one atop this story, which he says is from an old driver's license photo." 

"The eBay auction never went through. SuperDaE would tell me that Microsoft made a copyright claim on it. Microsoft wouldn't comment to me about the auction at all. Dylan now tells me that the eBay thing wasn't exactly what it seemed."

"But when I told Dylan about this, he displayed what I'd come to know as his penchant for icing one tale with a wilder one"

"To convince me he had Homefront 2, Dylan had sent me this, a supposed file directory for the game: *picture here*. Easily faked or the real deal? Dylan used to talk about flying to the States and showing me next-gen games running on Durango. If he had a Durango up and running, he easily could have sent me a screenshot of this or any other game. He never did..."

"Can you really trick Microsoft into sending something as sensitive as a development kit for their next Xbox to a random Australian address? Can you really trick the payment system since, presumably, you don't have the 15,000 Euros for the two development kits you say you got? Dylan never gave me a clear answer for any of that, but he did send me a screenshot of the supposed Microsoft developer online store. You or I can't get the URL to work, not without a game developers' password, something I don't have."

"After the police raided Dylan's house—and that event definitely did happen, according to "Australian police—Dylan told me a somewhat different story. Or perhaps I had misunderstood him. He'd never had the Durangos. They'd been sent to his friend in the United States or at least to a drop location his friend had access to. He was just the face for the eBay sales. He hadn't sold them. It became less and less clear to me what role, if any, he played in accessing them—to the extent that he and the hackers he knew really managed to trick Microsoft into sending that sensitive hardware out.

"I never personally touched the Durango itself," he told me. "I've played through the Durango operating system, but not the original. And was there a third Durango? Dylan told me he helped order and get it delivered to someone on an island. He says that one sold for $5,000 and that he has the bank receipt. I've never seen it."

"Since Microsoft doesn't comment on anything that involves the word Durango, it's only possible to look at Dylan's account of what happened next."

"The extent to which Dylan's account of his meeting with Hawkes is accurate is impossible to ascertain. Dylan shared what he said were texts between him and Hawkes during and right after the visit. (I've included one here. Judge for yourself. *pic of iOS text message woah!*

"Microsoft did not initiate this FBI investigation with this individual, as has been asserted in some of the articles in the media," a Microsoft spokesperson told me. "We take security very seriously and have no evidence of any compromise of our corporate network. We have no further comment on this matter."

"The police didn't address these allegations with us, nor has anyone confirmed that the American who Dylan says was present was an FBI agent."

"Shortly after the raid, Dylan hopped on Twitter, apparently from a nearby Apple store." 

 

 

Cold, hard facts right?

I suppose this is just me ranting about how absolutely terrible kotaku's journalistic skills are. In the case of specs, being...truthful. And in the case of this thing with SuperDae, their (lack of) investigative skills.



Turkish said:
Adinnieken said:
Turkish said:
Sucks the company he loved so much (Microsoft) send the FBI after him and lost everything.

If you would have actually read the Kotaku article you might have sounded a bit more intelligent, Turkish.

Microsoft says it has nothing to do with the FBI, in fact, while Microsoft did send a rep down with a PI, they actually worked with the guy to identify security issues.  Microsoft denied any involvement.  More than likely it was either Epic that did, a company he hacked, infiltrated, and obtained data from or Blizzard, a company he tried to hack into with very limited success.

I read the article 2 days ago, so what if I had not read it, what has it to do with intelligence? Don't believe Microsoft when they say they didn't send the FBI. They most definetly sent the FBI after him. The search warrant also stated "game consoles", guess why.

If you read the article, Epic also sent him a poster of GeoW3, they didn't send the FBI, neither did Blizzard.

He was poking his nose into Microsoft most of the time.

The problem, as he admitted, was that he recovered personal information including credit card info from Epic. 



Sal.Paradise said:

And just for shits and giggles (now I'm really just arguing for the sake of it lol) some choice quotes:


 

"Over the next month he would tell me many, many things that were hard to believe. I'd eventually be able to confirm half of it. I was left to wonder about the rest."

"I never met him in person, and the only image I've seen of him is the one atop this story, which he says is from an old driver's license photo." 

"The eBay auction never went through. SuperDaE would tell me that Microsoft made a copyright claim on it. Microsoft wouldn't comment to me about the auction at all. Dylan now tells me that the eBay thing wasn't exactly what it seemed."

"But when I told Dylan about this, he displayed what I'd come to know as his penchant for icing one tale with a wilder one"

"To convince me he had Homefront 2, Dylan had sent me this, a supposed file directory for the game: *picture here*. Easily faked or the real deal? Dylan used to talk about flying to the States and showing me next-gen games running on Durango. If he had a Durango up and running, he easily could have sent me a screenshot of this or any other game. He never did..."

"Can you really trick Microsoft into sending something as sensitive as a development kit for their next Xbox to a random Australian address? Can you really trick the payment system since, presumably, you don't have the 15,000 Euros for the two development kits you say you got? Dylan never gave me a clear answer for any of that, but he did send me a screenshot of the supposed Microsoft developer online store. You or I can't get the URL to work, not without a game developers' password, something I don't have."

"After the police raided Dylan's house—and that event definitely did happen, according to "Australian police—Dylan told me a somewhat different story. Or perhaps I had misunderstood him. He'd never had the Durangos. They'd been sent to his friend in the United States or at least to a drop location his friend had access to. He was just the face for the eBay sales. He hadn't sold them. It became less and less clear to me what role, if any, he played in accessing them—to the extent that he and the hackers he knew really managed to trick Microsoft into sending that sensitive hardware out.

"I never personally touched the Durango itself," he told me. "I've played through the Durango operating system, but not the original. And was there a third Durango? Dylan told me he helped order and get it delivered to someone on an island. He says that one sold for $5,000 and that he has the bank receipt. I've never seen it."

"Since Microsoft doesn't comment on anything that involves the word Durango, it's only possible to look at Dylan's account of what happened next."

"The extent to which Dylan's account of his meeting with Hawkes is accurate is impossible to ascertain. Dylan shared what he said were texts between him and Hawkes during and right after the visit. (I've included one here. Judge for yourself. *pic of iOS text message woah!*

"Microsoft did not initiate this FBI investigation with this individual, as has been asserted in some of the articles in the media," a Microsoft spokesperson told me. "We take security very seriously and have no evidence of any compromise of our corporate network. We have no further comment on this matter."

"The police didn't address these allegations with us, nor has anyone confirmed that the American who Dylan says was present was an FBI agent."

"Shortly after the raid, Dylan hopped on Twitter, apparently from a nearby Apple store." 

 

 

Cold, hard facts right?

I suppose this is just me ranting about how absolutely terrible kotaku's journalistic skills are. In the case of specs, being...truthful. And in the case of this thing with SuperDae, their (lack of) investigative skills.

The stuff with MS, Epic, and Blizzard IS hard facts though.  As is the fact that 99% of what SuperDaE told them about PS4 was right.

The final proof is the FBI raiding him.  They would have never done that unless he was revealing and releasing things people didnt want seen



The entire story of Super Dae is suspicious and makes no sense.

The search warrant is suspicious. It blacks out the Justice who issued it... why? It says COPY in the top right hand corner... why? Him going immediately to an apple store to tell people about it is suspicious... him not getting arrested is suspicious. If they had enough evidence for a search warrant they would probably have enough for an arrest as well. His statements on twitter don't even match up. He said the search warrant didn't really say anything other than MS, ebay, and paypal which is an obvious farce.

Tell you what if I were just raided by the FBI then my first thought would be to get a lawyer.