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BluGamer23 on 22 February 2013
RazorDragon said:

I've seen a lot of new topics comparing PS4 graphics to other consoles, including(LOL) Wii, but it seems nobody thought to make a PC graphics comparison, using current gen PS3/360 ports and a few exclusives, of course, to see the real improvement we're going to get with the PS4. I tried to pick the best shots possible for every game and tried to match the settings, unfortunately as PS4 shots are either heavily anti-aliased or incredibly low-res and blocky, I had to pick the anti-aliased ones which are probably don't represent the final game realistically.

 

What are you intentions for this thread?.. is it to show PS4 out do PCs? 



 

 

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RazorDragon on 22 February 2013
ninjablade said:

I just watched the video of killzone again, the lighting, effects, animation, detail, sh't going screen and partical effects, watch the video again and remove your biase,  the only thing that might look better is crysis 3 on max settings. i can't even find a nitpick on the graphics, what the the hell iare the graphics lacking? the only thing i can think is it's not 60fps.

I did watched that video a few times, however, it's easy to see things that are lacking when you play a lot on PC. Take this shot, for example, and you'll see what i'm talking about. Low-res ground textures, 2D trees(bottom right), not that different from, say, Battlefield 3, or is it? Same 2D trees, similar low-res textures. Of course, i'm just nitpicking since the graphics look great, but, see, there is no bias, I just don't get easily impressed with graphics these days, Crysis 3 included. If those were Avatar graphics, then it would be another thing, but these are the same current-gen PC graphics, a little worse though, that I have been seeing for a few years.

 

Trunkin said:
Most of your comparisons aren't fair. Watchdogs was running on a PC, Crysis Warhead is 4 years old, and Sonic Generations is a console game that doesn't take advantage of high-end PCs. 

Drive Club and Project Cards look the same to me, though.

 


I know that, but it isn't easy finding games that have similar environments and color palletes, are PC exclusives and are released at the sime time to make fair comparisons. I could just put a Crysis 3 shot there, which is a game years above Warhead and PS4 games in the graphics department, but it doesn't look anything like Killzone 4, color pallete is different, environment is totally different, the only way to compare these games in the graphics department would be hand-counting polygons. If I could find other similar games that match these requisites, then I would have put them on the OP. Also, like I said, this Watch Dogs screen was released on the PS4 announcement, I belive it would be supposed to show the PS4's graphics capabilities, regardless of running or not on PC.

 



OdinHades on 22 February 2013

Yeah, so far PC Games indeed look a little better than what has been shown on the PS4. I really hope Naughty Dog will show something at E3. If they can handle the PS4 just like they did with the PS3, I have absolutely no doubt that their PS4 Game will look better than any game on PC.

At least at launch the PS4 should do quite well against High End PCs. But at the end of the generation PC Games will no doubt look al lot better. It's really not a big difference from last generation. For me personally, the graphics of the PS4 will be more than good enough for the next 5 or 6 years. At the end of the day, I don't really care if games look somewhat better on a PC. I can't play my favourite games on that plattform, as they are Sony exclusives.



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VGKing on 22 February 2013

Not exactly a fair comparison. You comparing different games with completely different art styles.

We have to wait until launch and let the experts such as Digital Foundry do the comparisons.



zarx on 22 February 2013

Comparing PC shots of older games (and some super sampled PC screens that wouldn't be playable on even top end hardware at a decent framerate) to bullshots, target renders and tech demos hand picked to make the console look good is a little silly. And you didn't even pick very good examples for PC, why did you go for Crysis Warhead over C3 for example?



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RazorDragon on 22 February 2013
zarx said:

Comparing PC shots of older games (and some super sampled PC screens that wouldn't be playable on even top end hardware at a decent framerate) to bullshots, target renders and tech demos hand picked to make the console look good is a little silly. And you didn't even pick very good examples for PC, why did you go for Crysis Warhead over C3 for example?


Already explained why I picked those shots in the last few pages, if you could take a look in my posts there you would understand. Also, which image you found super sampled? The others seem to be normal images with anti-aliasing applied, except maybe the Sonic Generations one.



curl-6 on 22 February 2013
ninjablade said:
RazorDragon said:
ninjablade said:
RazorDragon said:
ninjablade said:

horrible comparison because those ps4 games are early and we haven't even seen more then minutes of gameplay, while those pc games are completed and we have the whole game to get the best looking pics from, those ps4 games may very well end up looking better, those pics of kill zone are not mind blowing like the video was, i'm sure when the game comes out some will take pics that do them justice.


Like I said before, what's being compared here is what is possible to be compared, PC ports from 360/PS3 games and a 2008 exclusive(because of environment similarities) designed to run on old GPUs and CPUs. PS4 games being early doesn't change the fact that this is 2012/2013 hardware incredibly similar to PC hardware and they have more and faster RAM to work with than what's possible right now on PC. There is a thread comparing PS4 games to Wii games graphically wise, just thought it would be nice to see how they scale with competitive hardware(PC).

is hitman 2 an open world game, and still watch dogs looks much better, killzone 3 looks better then those games from the video i watched, and GT5 will look as good, if not better then project cars. still to make a techincal comparison we need to compare one game at a time.

 


That's your opinion, and that was my intention in creating this thread, to hear out what people think. IMO, what we're seeing here is a incredible similarity between these old and ported games and those first shown PS4 titles. Of course, this is no indicative of PS4 graphics capability, as only time will tell us the difference, and based on specs, it should probably do a lot better than what was shown with those first-batch games.

 

I just watched the video of killzone again, the lighting, effects, animation, detail, sh't going screen and partical effects, watch the video again and remove your biase,  the only thing that might look better is crysis 3 on max settings. i can't even find a nitpick on the graphics, what the the hell iare the graphics lacking? the only thing i can think is it's not 60fps.

If I had to nitpick, I'd say that while the open city vistas are jaw dropping, it does look a bit bland during the enclosed firefights.

And I think you mean "Killzone: Shadowfall." Killzone 3 is a 2011 PS3 game.



zarx on 22 February 2013
RazorDragon said:
zarx said:

Comparing PC shots of older games (and some super sampled PC screens that wouldn't be playable on even top end hardware at a decent framerate) to bullshots, target renders and tech demos hand picked to make the console look good is a little silly. And you didn't even pick very good examples for PC, why did you go for Crysis Warhead over C3 for example?


Already explained why I picked those shots in the last few pages, if you could take a look in my posts there you would understand. Also, which image you found super sampled? The others seem to be normal images with anti-aliasing applied, except maybe the Sonic Generations one.


Hitman tho it's a total bullshot anyway, who would play at 720p when they have the hardware to max the game? Hitman does look great tho 

when it's not blinding you with bloom.



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zarx on 22 February 2013

Also if you want to match art style as much as possible Warframe might be a better match for Killzone, even tho Warframe really isn't pushing scale as much and is still in alpha plus being low budget.



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2008ProchargedGT on 23 February 2013

It actually seems like you want your cake and eat it too. You say you compared Crysis Warhead VS KZ4 because of the environment (which dosent match any way) and yet you keep pleading that its a game from 2008 and the PS4 is barely keeping up and blah blah blah. Well you knew a game from 2008 looked better than Cry3 thats why you chose it stop BSing please. In my opinion KZ4 looks better than both regardless and im sure most gamers on this site that have seen the direct feed 1080P vid would agree. Just saying...

 

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