Pal Charts, Week 4: M&S strikes back

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brute on 26 January 2008

Ajax said:
i think
you can expect sonic & mario to see it's sale rise again in the weeks before the real olympics begin

so even as the sales might fall down the coming couple of months
they'll probably shoot up again this summer

i know and its also selling so well i wonder if it can pass 5 mil

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goldenpp72 on 26 January 2008

so ace combat 6 chars and has no vgcharts data?

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kamil on 26 January 2008

@bigjon:

Kamil, do you know what it means for M&S to be #1? Like how many copies sold would that make if it were given a number? I am reffering to the Netherlands mainly, but am also intersted in UK.

I can't say much about Netherlands. I am sure it is smaller market than Italy', perhaps it's a half of it. In Italy in a "calm week" (like this one) a title one first place sell normally between 5k to 10k. In December it was 25-50k and a very big title can hit over 100k in first week (for example PES 2008 only on PS2 sold 150k first week). My guess is that in Netherland the numbers may be around half of those.

It's more easier to speak about UK market however calculation may be a little more complicated. Generally UK it's huge. In 2007 its market value was at 3.05 bln pounds* (around 6 bln USD). USA market was at 17 bln USD. This means UK video market value is at 35% of what US is. However games are priced higher in EU. So in terms of units UK is probably around 25% of what is sold in US.You can look at NA charts on this page and multiply it by 0.22-0.23 (remember to subtract 10% for Canada) to get general idea. A title on first place should normally be between 15-40k but in December possibly around 100k. Big titles can of course do more: Halo 3 and Fifa 08 (on all platforms) sold around 400k in first week, AC and CoD4 (counted on both platforms) sold over 200k in first week.

*This excludes PC market value (around 300 mln pounds) for easier comparision with American market.

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bigjon on 26 January 2008

Thanks, that helps put things into perspective alot. Also, Netherlands even though the country is much smaller than Italy has a better economy. I do beleive that Netherlands is bigger than you do, at least in relation to Italy.

End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

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Xyrax on 26 January 2008

Z&W debuting higher than burnout made me lol.

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Bodhesatva on 26 January 2008

Xyrax said:
Z&W debuting higher than burnout made me lol.

Whoa, Burnout is released there already? And had this debut?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/Arkives/Disccopy.jpg%5B/IMG%5D">http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/Arkives/Disccopy.jpg%5B/IMG%5D">

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bigjon on 26 January 2008

^I heard it was only out for 1 or 2 days.

End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

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kamil on 27 January 2008

@bigjon: Remember than Italy has three times more population than Netherlands. So I am assuming that Netherlands has more developd market (per person). Of course I am not saying you aren't right. I am only guessing on this subject as I have no real numbers regarding Netherlands (maybe some report will be released for year 2007 and then we will be able to say more about this).

@Xyrax: Wait one more week. You should compare this week Burnout result with Z&W previous one. Z&W was released excally one week before Burnout but didn't appear even on Wii chart in 3rd week.

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lombard2578 on 28 January 2008

Ireland charts:

Burnout paradise not very good, even if the game is the first for both 360 and ps3:

ps3:

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/ire/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=210017

360:

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/ire/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=210014

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/ire/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=210015

TOP 20 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE (ALL PRICES), WEEK ENDING 26 January 2008

LW	TW	Title	Developer	Label	Publisher
1	1	NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.	NINTENDO	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
2	2	MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA	NINTENDO	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
5	3	THE SIMPSONS GAME	AMAZE ENTERTAINMENT	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
14	4	MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	SEGA	SEGA	SEGA
-	5	BURNOUT PARADISE	CRITERION	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
4	6	CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	INFINITY WARD	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
16	7	WII PLAY	NINTENDO	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
3	8	DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING	NINTENDO	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
7	9	ASSASSIN'S CREED	UBISOFT (MONTREAL)	UBISOFT	UBISOFT
6	10	FIFA 08	EA CANADA	EA SPORTS	ELECTRONIC ARTS
8	11	COOKING MAMA	OFFICE CREATE	505 GAMES	505 GAMES
12	12	WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2008	YUKE'S	THQ	THQ
10	13	GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	NEVERSOFT	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
18	14	CARS	HELIXE	THQ	THQ
15	15	PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	KONAMI DIGITAL ENTERTAINMENT	KONAMI	KONAMI
-	16	RATATOUILLE	HELIXE	THQ	THQ
-	17	SIGHT TRAINING	NAMCO	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
17	18	THE SIMS 2	AMAZE ENTERTAINMENT	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
9	19	NEED FOR SPEED: PROSTREET	EA CANADA	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
-	20	UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE	NAUGHTY DOG	SONY COMPUTER ENT.	SONY COMPUTER ENT.

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lombard2578 on 28 January 2008

Uk charts:

You right kamil in your title.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

TOP 40 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE - INDIVIDUAL FORMATS (UNITS), WEEK ENDING 26 January 2008

LW	TW	Title	Format	Label	Publisher
1	1	MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	WII	SEGA	SEGA
-	2	BURNOUT PARADISE	XB360	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
-	3	BURNOUT PARADISE	PS3	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
6	4	WII PLAY	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
2	5	DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
5	6	CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	XB360	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
3	7	MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
7	8	NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
13	9	CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	PS3	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
14	10	LINK'S CROSSBOW TRAINING	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
12	11	GHOST SQUAD	WII	SEGA	SEGA
4	12	SUPER MARIO GALAXY	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
9	13	BIG BRAIN ACADEMY: WII DEGREE	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
-	14	RATATOUILLE	WII	THQ	THQ
8	15	COOKING MAMA	DS	505 GAMES	505 GAMES
10	16	ASSASSIN'S CREED	XB360	UBISOFT	UBISOFT
11	17	ASSASSIN'S CREED	PS3	UBISOFT	UBISOFT
23	18	CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES	WII	2KPLAY	TAKE 2
17	19	ZACK & WIKI: QUEST FOR BARBAROS TREASURE	WII	CAPCOM	CAPCOM
16	20	SIGHT TRAINING	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
19	21	THE SIMPSONS GAME	DS	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
15	22	MARIO PARTY 8	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
20	23	UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE	PS3	SONY COMPUTER ENT.	SONY COMPUTER ENT.
-	24	DONKEY KONG: JET RACE	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
22	25	FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008	PC	SEGA	SEGA
24	26	HALO 3	XB360	MICROSOFT	MICROSOFT
-	27	42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
-	28	SCRABBLE INTERACTIVE: 2007 EDITION	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT
21	29	MARIO KART DS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
28	30	LEGO STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA	WII	LUCASARTS	LUCASARTS
39	31	SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS	WII	SEGA	SEGA
32	32	GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	XB360	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
25	33	MASS EFFECT	XB360	MICROSOFT	MICROSOFT
29	34	MY WORD COACH	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT
27	35	TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 08	WII	EA SPORTS	ELECTRONIC ARTS
31	36	FORZA MOTORSPORT 2	XB360	MICROSOFT	MICROSOFT
-	37	ADVANCE WARS: DARK CONFLICT	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
-	38	COOKING MAMA	WII	505 GAMES	505 GAMES
33	39	PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	PS3	KONAMI	KONAMI
18	40	IMAGINE: BABIES	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT

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