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both changes are normal even without announcement these changes could have occured



It means nothing other than what we already know. That investors have no idea what they're doing or thinking. If they don't see immediate $$$'s regardless of long-term, proven business models, then things like this happen.



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Roar_Of_War said:

The economy is worse than what it was when the PS3 launched at $600. Video game consoles likely can't be more than $300 in this generation, or else it just scares consumers away.

That's very true, but both Europe and Japan are sony's territories (which could change) and they will buy anything sony throws at them no matter the cost it seems. At least that's what it seems like to me.



nnodley said:
Roar_Of_War said:

The economy is worse than what it was when the PS3 launched at $600. Video game consoles likely can't be more than $300 in this generation, or else it just scares consumers away.

That's very true, but both Europe and Japan are sony's territories (which could change) and they will buy anything sony throws at them no matter the cost it seems. At least that's what it seems like to me.



Japan used to be Sonyland. Nintendo owns Japan now and the dominance is unreal

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Jay520 said:
Chark said:
People are still confused about what console Nintendo has?


More like next gen doesn't start until Sony says so. The PS4's announcement was a simultaneous announcement that next gen is starting. This is good for all next gen consoles, including the Wii U, thus the share rise.


.........Is it odd that I agree with you?  That kinda sorta actually makes sense.  Even though the Wii U is undoubtably next gen, I'm not too convinced that next gen has started.  That will change when the PS4 releases and it might very well boost the Wii U's sales rather than take away from it, interesting.



I hate to shatter any illusions that anyone has, but the investors are actually behaving rationally. Where as supporters of a particular game console brand are unwilling to see that rationality. Sony is a deeply unhealthy company. That has seen substantial losses for five plus year. That has been selling off assets to offset losses on the spreadsheet, and now with the unveiling of the PS4 with its heavy handed specs. Doing nothing to address those problems, but seemingly primed to exacerbate them even further over the coming year.

I do not know if that is what Investors are responding too specifically, or if it is pure happenstance, but if that is the case you really cannot call their intelligence into question. The time for blind faith in Sony's future prospects is only to be found in the past. Not having that kind of faith in Sony is akin to having basic common sense. If the console is going to be sold at a substantial loss. That will mean that a return to consistent profitability could end up being many quarters away. If the console is sold at cost then it might not achieve enough market penetration, and may very well flop.

Which taken into consideration with the Vita adds up to a division without a flagship product to justify its own existence. A division that would only be worth a fraction of its current value. Requiring that Sony either write off the loss, or throw money at the problem. Which is probably the real nightmare of investors. That Sony may end up repeating the incredibly costly PS3 debacle. Where Sony ends up losing billions of dollars just to stay in the game. Which actually might not even be doable for the company.

No matter how it ends up playing out. You shouldn't be hard on people who may be getting their money out to avoid what could be a fairly substantial risk. This isn't a mental exercise, and this isn't necessarily about a game that some day traders are playing. For some people this is their retirement, college fund, or insurance against future disasters.

I know it might sound perverse, but a gamers wet dream. Is probably a nightmare for some investors. They after all have to be looking for something that Sony can make a quick profit from. Even if the company isn't the market leader. Rather then a console that has the potential to be a market leader, but promises substantial short term losses.



I read about this on another site and thought it was unusual.



Of course it's falling. Unless Sony will sell PS4 at $599 (which is unlikely, base on PS3 history), they will take huge loss for every PS4 sold with that kind of spec.

And as far as I remember, Sony still have financial trouble until now (Don't ask me the link, search Google if you want)



Well, I am not really sure that the PS4 will be as expensive to produce as PS3 was in 2006. In fact, probably significantly less so.

For starters, the CPU, when PS3 was released, it had specs that were fairly high end and on an expensive to produce cell processor, whereas PS4 has more high-medium end specs compared to PCs today. 8 core 1.6GHz AMD processor is not going to be nearly as expensive as an i7 quad core 3.4GHz processor.

Drives: The PS3 also used blu-ray drives which were new at the time, and expensive to produce. Now the technology is 6 years old and quite a bit less expensive.



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