That's not how the definition of gimmick works.

Gimmic, as far as I understand it is a function/device/thing that is used (or forced to be used) because it is new, and the new standard, but in the end when time passes you dont give a damn because in reality it is not such a good thing after all.  With the DS4, the main things are as useful as always (two analogs, d-pad, buttons), but they have more stuff in the device that arent the main purpose of the device, but they still increase the possibilities of interaction between the gamer and the games without being annoying.

It's no more gimmicky than a Wii U controller, and I love the Wii U controller and I literally think that Wii U Game Pad > PS4 controller ATM TBH so I have no problem with the PS4 controller.

You can consider that the touch screen on the U is intrusive.

You can say that forcing motion controls on a zelda game is annoying and degrades the overall experience.

But you just can't call either a gimmick.

A gimmick would be a love tester, which randomly gives results. It's a gimmick because it has really no value, it's just flash.

if touch pad is a gimmicks, so all laptop user are using a gimmicks computer...
b.t.w Kinect can't perform lots of precision motion that Move can, that is why its made for tracking... really hope Kinect 2 able to perform more precise movement in stead of just a flat body tracking camera...

right, which is what I asked for clarity on since it doesn't actually respond to my post in any shape or form. I said it would be used little in core games, and you pointed out a little part where it is used. I know the vita games. They can function without the trackpad, and so it is used very little in those games. Meanwhile, a game like tearaway actually makes use of it.

That's why I asked for clarification because you were just agreeing with me in a condescending tone by saying Uncharted uses trackpad. Like, yeah, that's what I just said.

Lol. You're giving me "permission"? You are hostile. Ask anyone in this thread.

The point of this thread is that you've seen users call the wii controls a gimmick, and now that playstation has a 'different' feature of control, you want to point out how foolish everyone looks when they show themselves open hypocritical. That's hostility, but I don't have a problem responding in my own point of view, and I don't have a problem with the thread.

For example, when you decided to point out uncharted, you conveniently skipped over what I said about controls for mobile games, easy porting of vita games and mobile, and internet nav. You are just choosing to look at the negative. Whether you're doing it with a smile on your face or not, you're being antagonistic, imho.

EDIT: just noticed you're friends with galaki and spurge. Well, spurge friends everyone who joins... lemme guess you friended galaki right?

what OP is trying to say is that if you called the wiiU a gimmick you are no longer allowed to play ps4 because you will be a hypocrite.

His thread is aimed at a very small portion of users, but it's serving well to rile up a much larger portion.

Gimmicky? No. Ugly? Yes. Personally I'm a bit disappointed with the design as they could have been a bit more creative.

Yes it's a gimmick, and people saying otherwise are just trying to fool themselves creating excuses. It is a gimmick just like the one in Wii U and the future Xbox. What is a console without a gimmick in this era? It is the norm, not the exception.

And there's nothing wrong with the Gamepad or the PS4 controller or even the Kinect. At least talking for me, I like the way companies are trying to change the interface. I like the touchscreen in the middle of a traditional controller as I find interesting a touchpad.

Playing the games like the last 25 years don't make me anything anymore, so I'll like to see new gameplay.

Pure opinion is the bane of intelligence. There are definitions for things people, use them.