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Cub said:
I think some of you need to stop being hypocrites, you've been drooling all over the last of us and halo 4 graphics for months now, the Wii U will easily surpass those. It will not stop looking good just because PS4 will produce better graphics :/

I wish Nintendo just dropped the whole pad idea and just released an affordable (or at least profitable) Wii 2 with similar specs to Wii U. While the Pad idea is attractive to me (I don't have a tv atm lol) it certainly isn't attracting people. Meh.


When the Wii U surpases those games, then you have reason to claim it's superiority, but not before then. As I have said many a time, the Wii U is in desperate need of it's "PGR3".



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Sure, it can be disappointing that the WiiU isn't cut out to be a mid-range+-like-PC.

However, the games will be there...Nintendo games will be as great as usual. They should still get some good third party support. Its still 720p HD (and 1080p*) and art/visual styles will make up for the lack of high-detail real-looking textures.

Graphics are nice, but they don't make a game good *looks at Battlefield and Crysis*



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Mazty said:
Cub said:
I think some of you need to stop being hypocrites, you've been drooling all over the last of us and halo 4 graphics for months now, the Wii U will easily surpass those. It will not stop looking good just because PS4 will produce better graphics :/

I wish Nintendo just dropped the whole pad idea and just released an affordable (or at least profitable) Wii 2 with similar specs to Wii U. While the Pad idea is attractive to me (I don't have a tv atm lol) it certainly isn't attracting people. Meh.


When the Wii U surpases those games, then you have reason to claim it's superiority, but not before then. As I have said many a time, the Wii U is in desperate need of it's "PGR3".


I don't understand, isn't the GPU better than that found in the 360? which in turn better than that found the ps3? why can't Wii U games suprass that? Don't answer me, let's just give it time and we'll see.



An HD4650 @550MHZ huh? My PC has an HD4650 @600mhz & cost me $90 4 years ago. It can run some games really well, but it's a real slouch by any modern standards.
I know PC vs console is a whole different ball game & it's custom hardware bla bla bla.



Mazty said:

When the Wii U surpases those games, then you have reason to claim it's superiority, but not before then. As I have said many a time, the Wii U is in desperate need of it's "PGR3".


I dare to say you are right, and that THIS TIME, nintendo lost an amazing oportunity, ONE SINGLE GAME on the lauch would have done the trick.

Imagine if AT LAUNCH, they had an amazing, pretty, inovative and powerful title that kicked the HD twins ass? Most of people who is bitter about how Nintendo approach all this would buy the thing.

Hell, I bought the PS3 basically because I couldn´t stand anymore the desire of playing Uncharted 2 and MGS4, those were powerful games.

However, if you lauch a console 6 years after the similar ones on the market, and don´t have a gimmick (wiimote, 3d on 3ds), it better do stuff that the other can´t.

I know, that is the wiiu-gamepad job, but it fell a little short of being as powerful as a wiimote. 

Just one single game that kick the HD twins ass, that is all that I ask...



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osed125 said:
Mazty said:
Flanneryaug said:
Mazty said:
And I got banned for saying the Wii U wasn't next gen....

It was obvious from it's load power consumption that it was not next gen aka on par with the next-box and PS4. Nice to have it verified from a different source though.

It is next gen. It is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. Was the PS2 not in the 6th generation, because it wasn't on par with the GameCube or Xbox? Generations are about what time they are released, not power.


1) How much more powerful than the 360 and PS3 is it?
1ii) Is there any game that shows this power difference?

2)If generation is to do with what time they are released then why is the PS3 super slim not next gen

3) How can a console be next-gen if it can't play next-gen games, as the OP states?

1) People are still trying to know what the hell is going on with the GPU, but it looks like something between 1.5x-2.5x (absolute max). No game at the moment does this, the closest one is the Monolith Soft 'X' game which is still very early in development, by the end of the year we should expect to see something that looks better than current gen games.

2) The super slim is the exact same hardware as the original PS3 just smaller, there aren't any new specs added to the model so it doesn't classifies as new hardware and thus no new gen (just like all the console remodels)

3) If the game looks graphically better, then it's next gen, there are no pixel counts that decide whether a game should be considred next gen or not.

1.5x more powerfu is the absolute max, i have the specs in my sig these are facts. i have asked many tech experts on this subject as well they all tell me its on par, not more powerful.



Mazty said:
Flanneryaug said:
Mazty said:
And I got banned for saying the Wii U wasn't next gen....

It was obvious from it's load power consumption that it was not next gen aka on par with the next-box and PS4. Nice to have it verified from a different source though.

It is next gen. It is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. Was the PS2 not in the 6th generation, because it wasn't on par with the GameCube or Xbox? Generations are about what time they are released, not power.


1) How much more powerful than the 360 and PS3 is it?
1ii) Is there any game that shows this power difference?

2)If generation is to do with what time they are released then why is the PS3 super slim not next gen

3) How can a console be next-gen if it can't play next-gen games, as the OP states?

1) Not sure yet, but it will be more powerful.

1ii) The X trailer does, and more games shown at this E3 will. 

2) The PS3 super slim is a different version of the console, not a successor.

3) If you want to argue that it is not next gen until a game is released that looks better than every game from the 7th gen, that is reasonable.



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shokenchi said:
looks like the next ps and xbox gonna cost a lot of money, unless sony and ms will sell them at a big loss. games prolly gonna cost $69.99 for 10 hours again.

Good luck trying to sell anything but top of the line at $70 a pop in the age of apps.  Sub $20 is where gaming dollars are going.  I would say expect more DLC at this point.  You get something on the shelf, and then get people to buy more DLC, so they end up spending $100 or more when it is all said and done.



ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
Mazty said:
Flanneryaug said:
Mazty said:
And I got banned for saying the Wii U wasn't next gen....

It was obvious from it's load power consumption that it was not next gen aka on par with the next-box and PS4. Nice to have it verified from a different source though.

It is next gen. It is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. Was the PS2 not in the 6th generation, because it wasn't on par with the GameCube or Xbox? Generations are about what time they are released, not power.


1) How much more powerful than the 360 and PS3 is it?
1ii) Is there any game that shows this power difference?

2)If generation is to do with what time they are released then why is the PS3 super slim not next gen

3) How can a console be next-gen if it can't play next-gen games, as the OP states?

1) People are still trying to know what the hell is going on with the GPU, but it looks like something between 1.5x-2.5x (absolute max). No game at the moment does this, the closest one is the Monolith Soft 'X' game which is still very early in development, by the end of the year we should expect to see something that looks better than current gen games.

2) The super slim is the exact same hardware as the original PS3 just smaller, there aren't any new specs added to the model so it doesn't classifies as new hardware and thus no new gen (just like all the console remodels)

3) If the game looks graphically better, then it's next gen, there are no pixel counts that decide whether a game should be considred next gen or not.

1.5x more powerfu is the absolute max, i have the specs in my sig these are facts. i have asked many tech experts on this subject as well they all tell me its on par, not more powerful.

Nobody is saying the Wii U is on par (only weird people like you)...you should know that by seeing the very same specs that are on your sig... I'm pretty sure you are here just to troll. 



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Mazty said:
Flanneryaug said:
Mazty said:
And I got banned for saying the Wii U wasn't next gen....

It was obvious from it's load power consumption that it was not next gen aka on par with the next-box and PS4. Nice to have it verified from a different source though.

It is next gen. It is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. Was the PS2 not in the 6th generation, because it wasn't on par with the GameCube or Xbox? Generations are about what time they are released, not power.


1) How much more powerful than the 360 and PS3 is it?
1ii) Is there any game that shows this power difference?

2)If generation is to do with what time they are released then why is the PS3 super slim not next gen

3) How can a console be next-gen if it can't play next-gen games, as the OP states?

1) Until a report is conslusive, and irrefutable by any doubt, then it's safe to assume the WiiU is up to and no more than 2x more powerful compared to the PS3 and X360. It's important to acknowledge that 2x more power isn't much, however, the GPU and hardware does have capabilities that the PS3/X360 cannot do; such as DX11-like capabilities and more than 2x the available RAM for game development.

ii) As far as any game showing this difference, we have to wait for the defining exclusives that are bound to drop in the next 2 years. Mario Kart U, Super Mario 3D U, and Bayonneta 2 are a few examples. Also, we could see the next Call of Duty or perhaps another IP that would launch PS3/X360/WiiU and perform better on the WiiU due to developers now having more time n the console.

2) Generations are defined by the launch of a next-gen platform. Of course they are aligned with other relevant manufacturer platforms.

i.e. PS2 to PS3 is a generational jump. PS2 to PS2 slim is not  a generational jump because PS2 and PS2 slim are the same platform. Competing platforms in the given time frame are the competition (i.e. Gamecube and Xbox)

Therefore, WiiU comes after the Wii, and therefore a Generation 8 console. 

3) There is no real line to draw through whats a "next-gen game". If we are to accept your premise, then the PS4/Xbox720 are also not next gen because Epic says their Samaritan demo requires a 2.5TF GPU (Rumors: PS4-1.8 , 720-1.2) (Epic saying Samaritan is the new standard of next-gen) Also, it would further blur the lines over what is considered this-gen-type-game as most games are far behind PC and don't even render natively at 1280x720p (what would be considered HD and onwards)



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