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Kaizar on 05 February 2013
Aielyn said:
Kaizar said:
Aielyn said:
Here's a question - what part of the system handles the Gamepad's screen?

I ask for two reasons - one, I'd think there'd at least be some part of the GPU designed specifically for the graphics of the Gamepad, due to issues like latency. Two, the Gamepad has a resolution matching that of the Wii... could it actually be using the same parts of the chip that handle the Wii Mode of the Wii U?

Anyway, just a thought.


Well ,I know that there are 2 Wireless:

1: Wireless b/g/n for Internet connection

2: Wireless N for 2 GamePad controllers to stream 2 HD images (1 per controller).......but I'm not sure if it stays 1080p stream per controller or if it gets reduce to a 720p stream per controller when using 2 GamePad Controllers at once.

I'm not so much interested in the transmission of the data, as the creation of it. Does the same part of the GPU that handles creation of the normal screen graphics also handle the Gamepad's graphics, or are they segregated in some way?

Figuring out how the Gamepad graphics generation works might help to figure out what's going on with the GPU as a whole, is what I'm thinking.

Yeah, I am also interested in knowing how the graphics are handle.

I'm guessing the polygons are split between the 2 but how that process goes down exactly is too clueless of a thing to figure out for now.

But I'm pretty sure the Wii U has been hacked already, so maybe hackers can help unfold a lot about the Wii U's capabilities.

The irony is that only the "friends list" on the 3DS has been hacked without bricking on firmware 1.0.0-0U.



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ethomaz on 06 February 2013

_crazy_man_ said:

Do 4k TV's even go above 60hz?

The base refresh rate for  Sony 4k TVs are 100Hz that can be boosted to 800hz using the Sony's MotionFlow MCFI... but of couse this boost just repeat the same image... so the real refresh is 100Hz.

The biggest issue lies in the input refresh rate... the latest version of the HDMI (1.4b) can just work with 4k resolutions at 24Hz.

So you have to go to with DisplayPort 1.2 to get 4k at 60Hz or expect the release of the HDMI 2.0 to buy your TV/console (if these are compatibles).

Ops... just to understand if you have a Sony 4k TV the low (base) refresh will be always 100Hz... so if the input are HDMI (24Hz) or DisplayPort (60Hz) the TV repeat some frames to reach the 100Hz do show the video... to see true 100Hz (100fps) you need a new input tech not disponible yet lol.

That's for 4k resolution... for 2k or 1080p you can input over 60Hz (60fps) with HDMI or DisplayPort.



_crazy_man_ on 06 February 2013
ethomaz said:

_crazy_man_ said:

Do 4k TV's even go above 60hz?

The base refresh rate for  Sony 4k TVs are 100Hz that can be boosted to 800hz using the Sony's MotionFlow MCFI... but of couse this boost just repeat the same image... so the real refresh is 100Hz.

The biggest issue lies in the input refresh rate... the latest version of the HDMI (1.4b) can just work with 4k resolutions at 24Hz.

So you have to go to with DisplayPort 1.2 to get 4k at 60Hz or expect the release of the HDMI 2.0 to buy your TV/console (if these are compatibles).

Ops... just to understand if you have a Sony 4k TV the low (base) refresh will be always 100Hz... so if the input are HDMI (24Hz) or DisplayPort (60Hz) the TV repeat some frames to reach the 100Hz do show the video... to see true 100Hz (100fps) you need a new input tech not disponible yet lol.

That's for 4k resolution... for 2k or 1080p you can input over 60Hz (60fps) with HDMI or DisplayPort.

Thanks for the info.



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ToraTiger on 06 February 2013

I know alot about computers, but I don't fully understand the importance of this image.



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oni-link on 06 February 2013
ToraTiger said:
I know alot about computers, but I don't fully understand the importance of this image.


It means that the Wii U's GPU is totally all new and customized specificallly for the Wii U. Therfore it cannot be compared to any other  GPU's on AMD's line up as it was fabricated specifically for Nintendo's needs.  All "power" assumptions are just that "ASSumptions"; so wait until E3 2013 to see how the Wii U really compares to the PS4/720. Can't wait 4 months to go and we will see all 3 next-gen systems and what they can do side by side!!!



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oni-link on 06 February 2013
_crazy_man_ said:
ethomaz said:

_crazy_man_ said:

Do 4k TV's even go above 60hz?

The base refresh rate for  Sony 4k TVs are 100Hz that can be boosted to 800hz using the Sony's MotionFlow MCFI... but of couse this boost just repeat the same image... so the real refresh is 100Hz.

The biggest issue lies in the input refresh rate... the latest version of the HDMI (1.4b) can just work with 4k resolutions at 24Hz.

So you have to go to with DisplayPort 1.2 to get 4k at 60Hz or expect the release of the HDMI 2.0 to buy your TV/console (if these are compatibles).

Ops... just to understand if you have a Sony 4k TV the low (base) refresh will be always 100Hz... so if the input are HDMI (24Hz) or DisplayPort (60Hz) the TV repeat some frames to reach the 100Hz do show the video... to see true 100Hz (100fps) you need a new input tech not disponible yet lol.

That's for 4k resolution... for 2k or 1080p you can input over 60Hz (60fps) with HDMI or DisplayPort.

Thanks for the info.


4k I'd wait for Sharps 8k tv

 



gigaSheik on 06 February 2013

1.21 Gigawatts? 1.21 Gigawatts!?!

Great Scott!!!



Kaizar on 06 February 2013
oni-link said:
_crazy_man_ said:
ethomaz said:

_crazy_man_ said:

Do 4k TV's even go above 60hz?

The base refresh rate for  Sony 4k TVs are 100Hz that can be boosted to 800hz using the Sony's MotionFlow MCFI... but of couse this boost just repeat the same image... so the real refresh is 100Hz.

The biggest issue lies in the input refresh rate... the latest version of the HDMI (1.4b) can just work with 4k resolutions at 24Hz.

So you have to go to with DisplayPort 1.2 to get 4k at 60Hz or expect the release of the HDMI 2.0 to buy your TV/console (if these are compatibles).

Ops... just to understand if you have a Sony 4k TV the low (base) refresh will be always 100Hz... so if the input are HDMI (24Hz) or DisplayPort (60Hz) the TV repeat some frames to reach the 100Hz do show the video... to see true 100Hz (100fps) you need a new input tech not disponible yet lol.

That's for 4k resolution... for 2k or 1080p you can input over 60Hz (60fps) with HDMI or DisplayPort.

Thanks for the info.


4k I'd wait for Sharps 8k tv

 

Screw HD, IMAX FTW!

But seriously, HD is just the middle child, and the only thing that is going to truely sell 4K HD TVs is the Glasses-Free 3D ability that over 99% are of.

But I'm going to settle with a Smart 3D 2K HD TV (upgrade from my current SD TV) and wait for IMAX quality TVs to come out.



Kaizar on 06 February 2013

Hey since you guys know so much about tech, then can you help me with this:

Now the GameCube has over 20 million Polygons

The Wii probably has somewhere from 50 to 100 million polygons

The 3DS GPU spec says it can do 15.3 million Polygons and the PS Vita GPU spec is said to do up to 35 million polygons in any one game

But both Handhelds have more better looking graphics then the Wii, and easily at that.

How is that possible?

I mean they look more detail and everything.

Is it the triangles or what?

 

This might help:

Rodea the Sky Soldier is made from the ground up for both the Wii version & 3DS version since 2010 I believe, and the Wii version went gold on June or July 2011, but the 3DS version is still in development.

And my comparisons besides the YouTube video in my signature are: "Pilotwings Resort VS. Wii Sports Resort" and "Monster Hunter 3 on 3DS vs. on Wii" and I guess also "Mario & Sonic 2012 olympics 3DS version VS. Wii version.



_crazy_man_ on 06 February 2013
oni-link said:
_crazy_man_ said:
ethomaz said:

_crazy_man_ said:

Do 4k TV's even go above 60hz?

The base refresh rate for  Sony 4k TVs are 100Hz that can be boosted to 800hz using the Sony's MotionFlow MCFI... but of couse this boost just repeat the same image... so the real refresh is 100Hz.

The biggest issue lies in the input refresh rate... the latest version of the HDMI (1.4b) can just work with 4k resolutions at 24Hz.

So you have to go to with DisplayPort 1.2 to get 4k at 60Hz or expect the release of the HDMI 2.0 to buy your TV/console (if these are compatibles).

Ops... just to understand if you have a Sony 4k TV the low (base) refresh will be always 100Hz... so if the input are HDMI (24Hz) or DisplayPort (60Hz) the TV repeat some frames to reach the 100Hz do show the video... to see true 100Hz (100fps) you need a new input tech not disponible yet lol.

That's for 4k resolution... for 2k or 1080p you can input over 60Hz (60fps) with HDMI or DisplayPort.

Thanks for the info.


4k I'd wait for Sharps 8k tv

 

So if 4k TV's are $17k-$39.6k atm, wtf would this cost!?!



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