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Kwaad said:
lenardo said:

of the 3 companies, ONLY nintendo can release a game console that improves the most in cpu, gpu ram and internal storage and have the largest IMPACT in the overall looks of the games played on it.

xbox360 does 720p (i believe it does 1080i as well)

ps3 does 720p and 1080p

however neither system upgraded can really improve image quality as much as the wii can and will improve...

 


Dude. Your crazy. I normally dont call things out, but this is far fetched.

The Wii doubles the CPU from the GameCube (roughly)

The 360 is roughly 15-20x faster than the x-box in CPU.
The PS3 is roughly 40x faster than the PS2 in cpu.

15-20x and 40 is is ALOT more improvement in power than 2x. Learn basic math.

 

The wii roughly doubles the graphics power... but not quite double. The Wii has about the same ammount of power as the x-box.

The x-box 360 has roughly 16x faster graphics chip than the x-box.
The PS3 has roughly a 25-30x faster graphics chip than the PS2.

Less than 2x does not equal 16-30x.

Once agian, this is VERY simple math.

 

Ok, in terms of graphics. You are saying the Wii will have better looking games in 2 years than the PS3/360?

The day the Wii does Gears of War level graphics... well, it would be pre-rendred.

And since it is SD, it would have roughly 1/4th the detail. Even *IF* the Wii did a pre-rendered video.


I know that the 360's graphics chip is more powerful than the PS3's, what I DIDN't know was that the PS2's was that slow.  The PS2 pumped out some AMAZING visuals given it's graphical 'weakness.'



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Kwaad said:
lenardo said:

of the 3 companies, ONLY nintendo can release a game console that improves the most in cpu, gpu ram and internal storage and have the largest IMPACT in the overall looks of the games played on it.

xbox360 does 720p (i believe it does 1080i as well)

ps3 does 720p and 1080p

however neither system upgraded can really improve image quality as much as the wii can and will improve...

 


 Dude. Your crazy. I normally dont call things out, but this is far fetched.

The Wii doubles the CPU from the GameCube (roughly)

The 360 is roughly 15-20x faster than the x-box in CPU.
The PS3 is roughly 40x faster than the PS2 in cpu.

15-20x and 40 is is ALOT more improvement in power than 2x. Learn basic math.

 

The wii roughly doubles the graphics power... but not quite double. The Wii has about the same ammount of power as the x-box.

The x-box 360 has roughly 16x faster graphics chip than the x-box.
The PS3 has roughly a 25-30x faster graphics chip than the PS2.

Less than 2x does not equal 16-30x.

Once agian, this is VERY simple math.

 

Ok, in terms of graphics. You are saying the Wii will have better looking games in 2 years than the PS3/360?

The day the Wii does Gears of War level graphics... well, it would be pre-rendred.

And since it is SD, it would have roughly 1/4th the detail. Even *IF* the Wii did a pre-rendered video. 


 Too bad none of that translates to what is on screen.  I think I dropped 15 points off my IQ after reading your post.  15x this, and 20x that, ummm, ok.  You don't do a very good job of proving your point by merely saying console A is X times faster than console B, because that has nothing to do with the final product (ie what you see on screen).  "Less than 2x does not equal 16-30x"  <---- I seriously LOLed when I read that.  That whole post sounded super fanboyish..sorry, but its true.  I don't even know what to say.



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starcraft said:
Kwaad said:
lenardo said:

of the 3 companies, ONLY nintendo can release a game console that improves the most in cpu, gpu ram and internal storage and have the largest IMPACT in the overall looks of the games played on it.

xbox360 does 720p (i believe it does 1080i as well)

ps3 does 720p and 1080p

however neither system upgraded can really improve image quality as much as the wii can and will improve...

 


Dude. Your crazy. I normally dont call things out, but this is far fetched.

The Wii doubles the CPU from the GameCube (roughly)

The 360 is roughly 15-20x faster than the x-box in CPU.
The PS3 is roughly 40x faster than the PS2 in cpu.

15-20x and 40 is is ALOT more improvement in power than 2x. Learn basic math.

 

The wii roughly doubles the graphics power... but not quite double. The Wii has about the same ammount of power as the x-box.

The x-box 360 has roughly 16x faster graphics chip than the x-box.
The PS3 has roughly a 25-30x faster graphics chip than the PS2.

Less than 2x does not equal 16-30x.

Once agian, this is VERY simple math.

 

Ok, in terms of graphics. You are saying the Wii will have better looking games in 2 years than the PS3/360?

The day the Wii does Gears of War level graphics... well, it would be pre-rendred.

And since it is SD, it would have roughly 1/4th the detail. Even *IF* the Wii did a pre-rendered video.


I know that the 360's graphics chip is more powerful than the PS3's, what I DIDN't know was that the PS2's was that slow. The PS2 pumped out some AMAZING visuals given it's graphical 'weakness.'

360's chip is not more powerful.  that is a flat out lie.  the ps3 chip is more powerful, but thats when u take away the 360's ram benefit.  the 360 chip is better under a completely distorted amount of shading and texture work (doesnt happen), while ps3 is better under a balance (doesnt happen either).  the 360 chip is also better when the cpu isnt being used, but a dev wont  not maximize the cpu to maximize the gpu.  the case will happen where the gpu does get to use tons of ram, but not often.

 in other words, count them as even.

 



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i officially boycott boycotts.  crap.

I just played God of War for PS2 after playing nothing but PS3 for about a year.

It seriously looks like shit. I couldn't believe how bad it used to be. It is still a great game and all, but I was suprised how far it had advanced without me noticing. PS1 to PS2 was very noticable because PS1 was a pixel loaded piece of shit.

ANYWAY, my point is, unless they can keep up the advancements they have been making, I don't see the point of a new console.



Aj_habfan said:
I just played God of War for PS2 after playing nothing but PS3 for about a year.

It seriously looks like shit. I couldn't believe how bad it used to be. It is still a great game and all, but I was suprised how far it had advanced without me noticing. PS1 to PS2 was very noticable because PS1 was a pixel loaded piece of shit.

ANYWAY, my point is, unless they can keep up the advancements they have been making, I don't see the point of a new console.

 u dont know moore's law do u?  if ninty were to get back on it (basing this on the gamceube, because the wii is not on moore's law)  and release in 2010 (yes, thats early), it would about 2-4 times as strong as the ps3 or 360.  since im assuming the gc was about 18 months behind the tech curve (xbox level in other words.  made for profit not just speed) and it will release in 2013 (i think this will be a long gen).  it would be 32x as strong as ps3 or 360.  and then it wouldbe stronger since it would have to match the next gen consoles.

 moore's law:  the processor speed will double every 18 months.  its held true for a long time and is expected to hold for a minimum of 10 more years, barring a breakthrough.



my pillars of gaming: kh, naughty dog, insomniac, ssb, gow, ff

i officially boycott boycotts.  crap.

I wouldn't think Sony would start planning the next one this early.



^ of course they start planning this early!!! (according to thesource in 2 yrs [2010] the ps4 will come out!)

in fact i think nintendo should be planning for the next system!!
(according to the source : 4 yrs. the Next ninty console will come out)