I do realize that.  That was actually entirely my point.

Oh whoops, I meant to quote the other guy.

I actually read what you said and agreed with you 100%

You wouldn't feel guilty if you killed someone? Regardless of if it was justified or not, you still took a life.


LOL, good response "Your silly, and I'm right....because that's the way I grew up..." - Which is essentially what you're saying.

If it were justified why would I feel guilty? Thats just fucking stupid.

The general consensus is that's actually what youre saying

Yes... because other countries don't actually look at the facts and don't realize they'd be safer with conceal carry laws.  Your bringing up US suburbs is completley irrelevent since US cities exist.  Additionally, people in Canadian cities would be better off if they could carry guns.

You might not like it.  (Hell I don't like it) but it's the truth.

When you see a truth you don't like you can either be honest and look at the facts like me... or you can just bury your head in the sand.

As for the whole burglar shooting a home invader thing.  That's actually a negigable concern, because the US has guns.  Most criminals aren't going to enter your house if your home in the first place because they're afraid of homeowners more then they are the police!

Only way your home is getting broken into is

A) Somebody thinks you aren't home.

B) Somebody knows you don't own a gun. 

So gun ownership is a powerful crime stopper in suburbs as well.  Just the mere knowledge that someone might have a gun prevents crime.  Even criminals know they damn well don't want to shoot somebody if they can avoid it.

You really have an ingnorant misconception of guns and an irrational fear of them. I live in Milwaukee which has conceal and carry along with open and carry. You don't need a permit for open and carry. And it's nothing like the wild west you make it seem it should be like. I also have to go through the bad areas to get to school and feel fine. There is no reason to be scared of someone with a legal gun on their hip unless you are being unruly and harmful to others.

And this is why I believe USA has so many damn problems.

Kasz, I 100% agree about Educations and everything else first before a gun ban. An immediate ban probably won't do anything if this is the attitude towards death Americans have.

Why does US have so many problems? Because there are people out there that have no respect for others well being? You are telling me I should show someone more respect than they do me? Hell fucking no. They earn respect and they earn it by being a model member of society. I have no sympathy for being resorting to crime getting punished. They know the consequences of their actions and they willfully did them anyway. It's a gamble the criminal takes. Why should I feel bad for them?

People in Canadian Cities would be better off if we could carry guns? Why, have to been to Canada? We keep our doors unlocked because we feel safe, why would be pack a gun?

By telling me to look at the facts, you're being a bit of a hippocrite. Youre entire arguement to this point, from my recolection, whs that guns do not affect the homicide rates of countries. You can say that Mexio and Russia have high homicide rates and correlate that to strict gun regulations, but that's a poor correlation because Canada, Japan, and South Korea have stricter, or as strict gun regulations, and a significantly lower homicide rate.

So telling me Canada would be better off with guns, is contradictary to your entire arguement. USA being worse off with guns in comparision to Canada, and your own facts just burn that in. So please don't even suggest people in Canada start to carry guns, that's just crazy.

Currently, only 3% of Torontonians (which is 20% of Canada) only carry a gun, if anything the most logical course of action is to remove that 3% then add 50% more to it.


As for house robberies, you realize armed robberies don't really happen that frequently in Canada (Theft, with a gun, with people present). You're including your own thoughts into the matter instead of facts.

People here don't care if you own a gun or not, generall house robberies are done when people aren't home. Heck, a 10lb dog will be moe of a deterant then anything because neighbours will hear the dog bark.

Is USA that different from Canada, where people in Canada would get a dog (Doesn't even have to be an intimidating one), or an alarm system for home security, and Americans would take it upon themselves and buy a gun?

Just wow.....

You're ignoring the biggest point. Guns are here to deter our tyrants from treading on us. They have some concept of self-value and care about living. So they don't treat us like crap, at least not blatantly.