Soundwave said:



Nirvana_Nut85 said:
PS1 - weakest console
PS2 - weakest console
Wii - weakest console

Can you tell me what they all have in common besides what was stated above?

If I was a betting man I'd say regardless of what is happening now, in 5 years the Wii U will be added to that list and the industry will be perfectly fine.




Not really PS1 was a good deal more powerful than the Sega Saturn, esoecially in 3D capability.
PS2 was a good deal more powerful than the Dreamcast and absolutely destroyed the best PC GPU of its time, yes GameCube and XBox were better but also released like 18-20 months later. Both the PS1 and PS2 were pretty cutting edge for 1995 and 2000 releases.
Wii is the exception, but the PS3 might still overtake it.
The system with a good amount of power (not neccessarily the highest, but still relatively cutting edge) + good 3rd party support tends to win each generation.
The GameCube and XBox would've slaughtered the PS2 if the PS2 was just an overclocked PSOne with an Eye Toy bundled with it. The Wii really was a big exception to the rule, but they also got a huge break with Sony being stupid enough to make a $600 PS3 to push Blu-Ray. That slowed the adoption of HD consoles tremendously early on.
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I would not go as far as saying a good deal more powerful as Saturn was really the PS3 of its gen in terms of difficulty of programming for its hardware. The dual CPU's if I'm not mistaken were suppose to assist in graphics.

PS2 regardless was still less powerful than the GC & substantially less powerful than the Xbox which by the time they released,SEGA was getting ready to raise the white flag, therefore making the PS2 the weakest competition.

The rest of your argument just seems like you are making excuses for Sony, followed by a jab at the Wii U (which is not an overclocked 360) and a pipe dream of the PS3 winning last gen. To each their own I guess.

Probably the exact same future as the Wii U losing this generation. The industry didn't seem to change its ways after the Wii won so I don't see why they would now.

The PS1 was only marginally weaker and the Sega Dreamcast was the weakest of the PS2 generation.

The Wii on the otherhand was a whole generation behind but had motion control and wii sports, which at the time really appealed to the mass market, that's what made the Wii sell, it's level of power was irrelevant. The WiiU is a different story, not only is it going to be vastly behind tech wise but it's new "innovative" controller does not have the same appeal to the mass market that the wiimote had.

The wiiu so far offers very little in comparison to current generation consoles, it's not going to fare well against the next gen systems from Sony and Microsoft.

We don't know that yet, and it almost certainly won't be the same kind of gap as between the Wii and PS360 because at least this time the Wii U uses industry standards like programmable pixel shaders instead of the Wii's quirky TEV system which devs struggled with, which means porting from PS4/720 to Wii U will most likely be much easier than porting from PS360 to Wii.

If Nintendo goes core it wont win. Nintendo never works properly with western devs when it comes to new tech. The Wii U is redemption for Japanese devs who never had the chance to master current gen tech. Western devs will mostly move on to the competition and the people will follow, mark my words. Nintendos console will survive off of exclusives and I believe it will sell at best 40-45 million consoles without the casuals.

No.

That's right, they weren't. PS1 vs Saturn is debateable, but the PS1 definitely beat out the likes of the 3DO. PS2 also overpowered the Dreamcast.

They were, however, less powerful than some their main competitors. (N64, Xbox, Gamecube) I think that was more the point, that they were weaker than some of the consoles they outsold.

I doubt anything would happen really; despite maybe a move away from raw power (which would only be good for the industry anyway).

Conversely, I can see a crash in the industry if the Wii U fails (though this is less likely than the proposed scenario).

If the Wii U wins, expect gamers to be left in the dust and casuals to take over as the latter do not care about tech. If the Wii U wins, I can't see myself enjoying many future games.