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Could Nintendo have done a better job with the year head start?

Yes they shouldve had mor... 60 69.77%
 
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Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
MDMAlliance said:
BaldrSkies said:
I think the Wii U proved more than anything else that Mario alone is not enough to move consoles, and that Nintendo management really has no idea what they are doing anymore.


I wouldn't really say that.  3,000,000 units sold in the time the Wii U has been out isn't that bad, it's just nowhere near what they expected (or what others expected).  It is also CURRENTLY not having much going for it as no games are being released (at least, no big ones).


It's actually under 2 million sold. 3 million would be what they shipped, which is probably going to be sitting on store shelves for a while.

No its not. Please don't post something that is not factual.

By the end of Q3, according to Nintendo's Financial report, the Wii U sold 430k in EUR, 890k in US, and 627k in Japan. Which brings a total of 1.94 million. Add Australia, Canada, Mexico and Latin America, which was not shared by Nintendo, the result is more than ''under 2 million sold.''

Good day.


Canada, Australia, and Latin America are tiny markets. Those are very poor sales, reminscent of the GameCube. They are probably over 2 million but not by much through Christmas, without supply constraints.

Demand for the system is extremely soft, there's no way to spin it. Those Euro sales in particular are horrid, they couldn't even sell half their inventory through Christmas even with a new Mario game.



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Nintendo really isn't competing with the PS4/720 anyway so it doesn't matter that much.

The initial audience for the PS4/720 is going to be the hardcore male 16-35 year old consumer who's willing to spend $400+ on console hardware and his favorite games are things like first person shooters (Modern Warfare 4, Battlefield 4), next-gen sports game engines (NBA 2K14, Madden 25, FIFA), and more graphics driven action/sci-fi stuff like Destiny, Watch Dogs, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

This is not the crowd dying to play the next Rayman or Pikmin or LEGO City or Yoshi's Land, unless Nintendo had something like Halo exclusive, there's not a lot Nintendo can do to distract that audience from their excitement over the PS4/720.

Nintendo is really not in that market. The Wii U is designed to be more friendly for the family audience and casual players along with a little more for core players, but not to the extent of the PS4/720 which are really tailored to what that market wants. They need more of the audience that supports things like Just Dance and Skylanders and the LEGO games.

The Wii U's biggest thorn in their side is actually the PS3/360 IMO. They have many/all of the same third party games and cheaper hardware, and I think that's absolutely killing Nintendo with the family/budget/kids market. Why pay $350 for a Wii U, when you can get a 360 or PS3 for about $100 less and pick up a bunch of $20-$30 games with it? If I'm a budget concious parent (and who isn't these days), I'd probably get my kids a 360 and pick up a cheapo LEGO Star Wars or Harry Potter.

If Sony/MS drop the PS3/360 by another $50 this year, they can really squeeze Nintendo hard.



Soundwave said:


It's actually under 2 million sold. 3 million would be what they shipped, which is probably going to be sitting on store shelves for a while.

It's actually above 2 Million Around 2.5 to be exact.



NintendoPie said:
Soundwave said:


It's actually under 2 million sold. 3 million would be what they shipped, which is probably going to be sitting on store shelves for a while.

It's actually above 2 Million Around 2.5 to be exact.

Overtracked almost certainly. January sales for this even by VGCs own numbers are horrible.



Yes, they could've done better with this head start. I agree. They needed more of these games to be released before Christmas and they needed them in the first and second quarters, especially the first.



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Soundwave said:

Overtracked almost certainly. January sales for this even by VGCs own numbers are horrible.

I doubt it's overtracked by 500'000+ units.



Soundwave said:
Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
MDMAlliance said:
BaldrSkies said:
I think the Wii U proved more than anything else that Mario alone is not enough to move consoles, and that Nintendo management really has no idea what they are doing anymore.


I wouldn't really say that.  3,000,000 units sold in the time the Wii U has been out isn't that bad, it's just nowhere near what they expected (or what others expected).  It is also CURRENTLY not having much going for it as no games are being released (at least, no big ones).


It's actually under 2 million sold. 3 million would be what they shipped, which is probably going to be sitting on store shelves for a while.

No its not. Please don't post something that is not factual.

By the end of Q3, according to Nintendo's Financial report, the Wii U sold 430k in EUR, 890k in US, and 627k in Japan. Which brings a total of 1.94 million. Add Australia, Canada, Mexico and Latin America, which was not shared by Nintendo, the result is more than ''under 2 million sold.''

Good day.


Canada, Australia, and Latin America are tiny markets. Those are very poor sales, reminscent of the GameCube. They are probably over 2 million but not by much through Christmas, without supply constraints.

Demand for the system is extremely soft, there's no way to spin it. Those Euro sales in particular are horrid, they couldn't even sell half their inventory through Christmas even with a new Mario game.

It's not probably, they ARE over two million. Why always undermine Nintendo's achievements?

Xbox 360 was supply constrained in the begining, and yet sold less than 6 million units WW in the long run during its 1st year on the market (less than Gamecubes' offering). Wii U will most likely outperform Xbox 360's first year on the market but will not have been supply constrained, does that mean it's a flop?



It isn't fair to say until the year head-start is over. Make the thread in January 2014 after holiday sales have all been reported.



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NintendoPie said:
Soundwave said:

Overtracked almost certainly. January sales for this even by VGCs own numbers are horrible.

I doubt it's overtracked by 500'000+ units.


Wouldn't be surprised if its overtracked by 200k or more. They barely got to over 2 million by the end of 2012, by Nintendo's own numbers, no chance in puppy heaven have they sold an additional 500,000 in January.



Soundwave said:


Wouldn't be surprised if its overtracked by 200k or more. They barely got to over 2 million by the end of 2012, by Nintendo's own numbers, no chance in puppy heaven have they sold an additional 500,000 in January.

Why would you even think that? They sold the majority of the Wii U in 2012. 

And still, 200k less wouldn't be under 2 Million, like you said before.