I think a lot of it is fuelled by the hype. Nintendo fans were like this around the time the Wii U was announced/released. When things calm down, people will become a bit more realistic about things. I personally think Microsoft will lead this gen, unless they put too much focus on media and kinect and ignore their original market.

And I assume you think the Wii has an ashtonishing controller? Yes, I'm sure it does. I've played with the PlayStation controller for over 8 years and I have no idea what you are talking about when you say it "digs into your hands". Face it, you have never even held the Dualshock 3. Soon as you said that you've played on a PS3 at your friends house I knew you were lying.

I don't really care if you think I'm lying or not, and no the wii mote and nunchuk are far from perfect controllers, I like playing with different controllers not the same controller every generation, I got bored with the ps2 and was considering buying a gamecube, I played with a different control all the way up to owning a ps2, Sony need to change it up

Don't boter man. Looking at his other posts in this thread it's apparent he has a deep hatred for anything Sony.

:S ok so I think I will make a new thread...guy seriously lol Edge just released an article detailing the PS4..including the NEW controller

Some people think Sony will return to the PS2 sales with the PS4 and that the PS3 was just a slip up.

Sony fans are like NY Yankee fans. Always harping about past success while their brand isn't as strong as it was in the 90's because others have caught up and surpassed them.

I am pretty sure very few ( if any ) thought Sony would destroy anybody until this thread came along. The humour in many posts justify that.

I will start a thread "Why do people think that people think that ...."

Microsoft pioneered one great thing with the Xbox, Party Chat, that in itself was brilliant, especially with people in different games. Xbox also came out first with the achievements, as you saw with the early PS3, games were not required to have trophies. When they saw how well Achievements worked in games, Sony ripped them off, much like Steam has. For some reason, Nintendo has not done this, and they still won Generation 7 in both handheld and console, although their legs ran out in the Wii 2 years ago, and NOT because of the Move or Kinect, because of the quality of third party games(IE, the Wii had significantly less)

The Playstation 3 had a Blu Ray player, that's huge because there's no disc swapping, even if you don't play video games, you can use it as a blu ray player and a place to store movies, pictures, etc. The graphics on the system were a little more detailed. Play Battlefield 3 and you'll see a difference.

If Microsoft did not charge for it's online service, they would've dominated the 7th generation, that is a major turnoff especially when Playstation Plus offered so many free games over the course of 3 years, this strategy proved to be more successful than charging for online, causing some people to defect to Sony, or actually give up their PS2's in favor of a PS3.

The only downside to the Wii U releasing a system now, instead of 1-2 years from now, Microsoft and Sony can rip off the gamepad ideas before even thinking about releasing their system, and find ways to beat Nintendo. Add to that, there are 4K resolution TV's, Wii U might run into the same problem with games not supporting 3840x2160 resolution, whereas the Xbox 720 and PS4 are expected to. Wii had 480p, Xbox and PS3 had 1080, hell even the PS2 had 720p in some games.   But in honestly, that's not as crippling as 4:3 versus 16:9 resolution, unless PS4 finds a way to implement Simulview technology and 3D in ALL of their games, which would be a HUGE draw, imagine 6 people playing the same game, all in full screen, tied to your pair of 3D glasses.   Now that would be groundbreaking.

Imagine if the Vita remake got upgraded to 2GB of ram, a 1080p screen, and double shoulder buttons and a true dual analog experience with HDMI out? It would totally be worth the asking price, that should be $199/$229 right now, WITH a 16GB memory card.

I don't hate sony, the ps1 was an amazing console to me and my second favourite console, but I didn't enjoy the ps2 half as much, I'm interested to see what sony do though, I hope there going to to shake things up an shock people, if you read my previous post I even said I think Nintendo will return to third place and if Microsoft play there cards right could lead the 8th gen, I hope all three company's are successful again.