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Is an eternal Hell necessary?

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Roma on 01 February 2013
KungKras said:
Roma said:
KungKras said:
 

The better version of that argument is, people born in the wrong parts of the world are doomed to hell because they were born in the wrong culture, why would god make it so that perfectly good people are sent to hell because they lost the birth lottery?

well God does not punish those who don't know.

God sent a messenger to every tribe on the planet so people would find out about the one God one way or another

I'm not buying that. The native american peoples were isolated from the rest of the world until the 16:th (?) century.

Even if a messenger magically appeard there, a person's religion is almost always determined by the culture in which they live and although missionaries have suceeded before (Germanic and Slavic peoples, Indonesia) they have also failed (India, China, Japan). Are you saying the Japanese engineers who volonteered to clean up Fukushima instead of the young are still going to hell because they're non-religious?

messengers don't magically appear they are chosen from the people he is supposed to send the msg to and it was to worship the one creator warn them of evil and wrong doings. all of them came with the same msg but what people did with the msg is another thing which I don't have that much knowledge of

in hadith it is mentioned that there where 124,000 thousand sent throughout history but only 25 of them are mentioned in the Qoran

also I can't tell you who is or is not going to hell/heaven as I do not know what their future holds as people change



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HeavenlyWarrior on 01 February 2013

according to the book of apocalypse, hell isn't eternal, it's going to be destroyed in the lake of fire



LemonSlice on 01 February 2013
Mr Khan said:
The Calvinists, meanwhile, take the view that we humans are scum and deserving of eternal hellfire, and it is only the incomprehensible mercy of God that any of us get into heaven.

Really? I wouldn't imagine fans of such a lighthearted and fun comic to have such dire thoughts.



Roma on 01 February 2013
HeavenlyWarrior said:
according to the book of apocalypse, hell isn't eternal, it's going to be destroyed in the lake of fire

who wrote the book?



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KungKras on 01 February 2013
Roma said:
KungKras said:

I'm not buying that. The native american peoples were isolated from the rest of the world until the 16:th (?) century.

Even if a messenger magically appeard there, a person's religion is almost always determined by the culture in which they live and although missionaries have suceeded before (Germanic and Slavic peoples, Indonesia) they have also failed (India, China, Japan). Are you saying the Japanese engineers who volonteered to clean up Fukushima instead of the young are still going to hell because they're non-religious?

messengers don't magically appear they are chosen from the people he is supposed to send the msg to and it was to worship the one creator warn them of evil and wrong doings. all of them came with the same msg but what people did with the msg is another thing which I don't have that much knowledge of

in hadith it is mentioned that there where 124,000 thousand sent throughout history but only 25 of them are mentioned in the Qoran

also I can't tell you who is or is not going to hell/heaven as I do not know what their future holds as people change

Looking at the world today, obviously, the messengers failed in large parts of the world (given that there actually was messengers)

There is no reason to believe that people who have never believed in a god, in a culture that doesn't believe in that god, is going to change their minds before they die.



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Mr Khan on 01 February 2013
LemonSlice said:
Mr Khan said:
The Calvinists, meanwhile, take the view that we humans are scum and deserving of eternal hellfire, and it is only the incomprehensible mercy of God that any of us get into heaven.

Really? I wouldn't imagine fans of such a lighthearted and fun comic to have such dire thoughts.

you're one of my new favorite posters, yuri-fan.

Calvin was actually named after John Calvin, specifically because Watterson thought he had a dim view of human nature. Similar with Hobbes and Thomas Hobbes.



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LemonSlice on 01 February 2013
Mr Khan said:
LemonSlice said:
Mr Khan said:
The Calvinists, meanwhile, take the view that we humans are scum and deserving of eternal hellfire, and it is only the incomprehensible mercy of God that any of us get into heaven.

Really? I wouldn't imagine fans of such a lighthearted and fun comic to have such dire thoughts.

you're one of my new favorite posters, yuri-fan.

Calvin was actually named after John Calvin, specifically because Watterson thought he had a dim view of human nature. Similar with Hobbes and Thomas Hobbes.

I'm bound to disappoint you sooner or later. :)



Roma on 01 February 2013
KungKras said:
Roma said:
KungKras said:
 

I'm not buying that. The native american peoples were isolated from the rest of the world until the 16:th (?) century.

Even if a messenger magically appeard there, a person's religion is almost always determined by the culture in which they live and although missionaries have suceeded before (Germanic and Slavic peoples, Indonesia) they have also failed (India, China, Japan). Are you saying the Japanese engineers who volonteered to clean up Fukushima instead of the young are still going to hell because they're non-religious?

messengers don't magically appear they are chosen from the people he is supposed to send the msg to and it was to worship the one creator warn them of evil and wrong doings. all of them came with the same msg but what people did with the msg is another thing which I don't have that much knowledge of

in hadith it is mentioned that there where 124,000 thousand sent throughout history but only 25 of them are mentioned in the Qoran

also I can't tell you who is or is not going to hell/heaven as I do not know what their future holds as people change

Looking at the world today, obviously, the messengers failed in large parts of the world (given that there actually was messengers)

There is no reason to believe that people who have never believed in a god, in a culture that doesn't believe in that god, is going to change their minds before they die.

these where only sent to their people not for the world. Mohammed is the only one that was sent to all mankind to deliver the same message the others have in a complete and preserved form which is why the Qoran is the only book sent by God that has remained the same since it's creation which is a miracle of its own

you would be surprised how many people actually change :)



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HeavenlyWarrior on 01 February 2013
Roma said:
HeavenlyWarrior said:
according to the book of apocalypse, hell isn't eternal, it's going to be destroyed in the lake of fire

who wrote the book?


The emissary John



Roma on 01 February 2013
HeavenlyWarrior said:
Roma said:
HeavenlyWarrior said:
according to the book of apocalypse, hell isn't eternal, it's going to be destroyed in the lake of fire

who wrote the book?


The emissary John

cool, thanks

I need to know more about Christianity

I do have a couple of questions though that don't make sense to me but I will create a thread for that later on



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