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Chandler said:
maverick40 said:
Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


You don't have a clue. Sony is a massive corporation, so when SCE make  a big loss it has daddy Sony to bail it out. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury because their only products are two game machines and they are tiny corporation by comparisson. So if one of their two big products is failing like the Wii u, it hurts nintendo in a big way.


Sucks that "Daddy Sony" is failing, too.

Mature response, well done.



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happydolphin said:
maverick40 said:

You don't have a clue. Sony is a massive corporation, so when SCE make  a big loss it has daddy Sony to bail it out. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury because their only products are two game machines and they are tiny corporation by comparisson. So if one of their two big products is failing like the Wii u, it hurts nintendo in a big way.

Big daddy must be getting raped pretty violently atm then....


Isn't it the other way at Sony atm? Big daddy is losing money and little SCE has to work for ten.



maverick40 said:
Chandler said:
maverick40 said:
Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


You don't have a clue. Sony is a massive corporation, so when SCE make  a big loss it has daddy Sony to bail it out. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury because their only products are two game machines and they are tiny corporation by comparisson. So if one of their two big products is failing like the Wii u, it hurts nintendo in a big way.


Sucks that "Daddy Sony" is failing, too.

Mature response, well done.

Hey man, you started the whole daddy shit.



maverick40 said:
Chandler said:
maverick40 said:
Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


You don't have a clue. Sony is a massive corporation, so when SCE make  a big loss it has daddy Sony to bail it out. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury because their only products are two game machines and they are tiny corporation by comparisson. So if one of their two big products is failing like the Wii u, it hurts nintendo in a big way.


Sucks that "Daddy Sony" is failing, too.

Mature response, well done.


Nice comeback. Except not.



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Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


Hum... Why do you feel the urge to go anti Sony at every occasion you can think of?



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Hynad said:
Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


Hum... Why do you feel the urge to go anti Sony at every occasion you can think of?

Hum...because it's relevant to my opinion in this thread?



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Chandler said:
Hynad said:
Chandler said:

100% sure that the same quarterly results for Sony would be treated as a landslide victory. It's so hypocritical, Sony doesn't even reveal Vita sales and cuts forecasts by 6 million across two quarters and will cut it even more but somehow their investors just don't give a shit.


Hum... Why do you feel the urge to go anti Sony at every occasion you can think of?

Hum...because it's relevant to my opinion in this thread?

Your opinion in this thread? The thread's OP doesn't even make mention of Sony, or any of Nintendo's competitor.

You do that kind of jab at Sony every occasion you can. This kind of comment is not on topic and is nothing but flame bait.



forest-spirit said:
happydolphin said:
maverick40 said:

You don't have a clue. Sony is a massive corporation, so when SCE make  a big loss it has daddy Sony to bail it out. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury because their only products are two game machines and they are tiny corporation by comparisson. So if one of their two big products is failing like the Wii u, it hurts nintendo in a big way.

Big daddy must be getting raped pretty violently atm then....


Isn't it the other way at Sony atm? Big daddy is losing money and little SCE has to work for ten.

That was my understanding of it. I've always found maverick to be full of astounding novelties, so I could be wrong.



UncleScrooge said:

@ Rest of the thread: What are you guys talking about? Nintendo is not fine, both their console and handheld markets are in severe decline and Iwata, being the CEO and responsible for Nintendo's operations, is to blame for this. Iwata was really smart using Blue Ocean strategy and making their next console a disruptive one - his analysis of the video gaming market in the early 2000's was spot on and his actions well thought out. But after that things just went downhill in every possible regard. Here's some blatant mistakes Nintendo made under Iwata's lead that any mediocre CEO should have been able to avoid:

- Not following up the first waves of mass market games on the Wii with new titles, thus letting the Wii die
- Completely abandoning the mass market with the 3DS
- Pricing the 3DS insanely high just because Iwata himself thought they "could charge that price"
- Not providing a decent line-up in the first year of the 3DS
- Pushing numerous games back in the west and right now acting all surprised the console isn't selling (!)
- Abandoning the customers of the Wii with the Wii U because they wanted to focus on "the core gamer"...
- ... which equals going back to the business strategies that almost bankrupted the company some years ago
- Not providing a decent launch line up for the Wii U despite claiming to have "learned a lesson"

Other things include:
- Not following up Nintendo's growth with the acquisition of new development studios
- The Fallout with EA which will strip Nintendo of any serious EA support for years
- The inability to keep his own developers in check (5 years of Zelda dev cycle, 3D Mario, Pikmin 3 announcement)
- His inability to make sure deadlines are being met (like 50% of the Wii U Q1 line-up was pushed back!!)
- Repeatedly (!) overestimating demand for Nintendo systems in their FY forecasts
- The inability to create an account system for their consoles and the resulting "data transfer" fiasco

--> To sum it all up Iwata (and some of Nintendo's managers and developers) got full of themselves, which is the only possible explanation for some absolutely mindboggling decisions the company made over the last few years. As CEO Iwata's job is to run the company and he's responsible for all of this. Nintendo is looking more and more like Apple did in the 90's: Continuously making questionable business decisions while sitting on a gold mine.

I keep seeing this, what happened exactly? 



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forest-spirit said:
Not sure getting rid of Iwata would do much. I have a feeling there are other people over at Nintendo holding the company back, a bunch of old farts living in the past.



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This.

Its not Iwatas fault, I allways believed that he is ready to make Nintendo more flexible, but the rest of the leadership is bringing him down.



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