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Salnax said:
Worst case scenario, Nintendo repeats the GameCube era, sells 30 million Wii U's, tightens their belts, lives off of 3DS income, and releases a new system in 2017 or so.

After the success of the Wii/DS, Nintendo can survive a relative failure.

This.

That's the worst case scenario and still very little would happen.



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Salnax said:
Worst case scenario, Nintendo repeats the GameCube era, sells 30 million Wii U's, tightens their belts, lives off of 3DS income, and releases a new system in 2017 or so.

After the success of the Wii/DS, Nintendo can survive a relative failure.

This. They survived the GameCube, they can survive anything. I think that they only would have problems if a home console bombed hard and their handheld bombed too (wich definitively isn't the case with 3DS).

 

Claymore said:
Little tip Nintendo made more money off the Gamecube than Sony did off the PS2.

Man, do you really think that a console that sold 160 million units with a great tie ratio made less money than one that sold 25 million?



Gamerace said:

It amazes me that you folks forget Nintendo's real main franchises.  Games like Wii Sports/Wii Fit, Nintendogs and Brain Age sold WAY more systems for Nintendo, and appeal to a very different audiences than Kirby, DK, Starfox, etc.

Wii U needs something like that.  Not WiiU Fit mind you.  That's been there, done that, old news which won't appeal to anyone now.  They need something fresh.

We were talking about Nintendo's "Core" audience so I didn't mention them. Plus, they are not really long-term franchises. As you said, Wii Fit was huge for the Wii but Wii Fit U probably won't be nearly as big.

I believe Nintendo is definitely working on the Nintendogs, Wii Sorts, Wii Fit, of the Wii U. It will likely use NFC or a new peripheral. If not, it will use the Gamepad in a way that nobody saw coming. Either way, I'm sure Nintendo is working on something.



First of all, the Wii U isn't really struggling right now. Remember, we have to wait until it has two Christmas's!

But if it does end up being the "Modern GameCube" then I still think it won't sell nearly as bad as the original GameCube. 40 Million minimum would be my prediction, and that's if times get really rough. Wii U should be able to pick up ground as long as Nintendo actively releases games for it and keeps it at an aggressive price point.
Overall I think they'll make a profit from the Wii U, it won't be the bane of their existence.



*Sound Of Rain said:
Gamerace said:

It amazes me that you folks forget Nintendo's real main franchises.  Games like Wii Sports/Wii Fit, Nintendogs and Brain Age sold WAY more systems for Nintendo, and appeal to a very different audiences than Kirby, DK, Starfox, etc.

Wii U needs something like that.  Not WiiU Fit mind you.  That's been there, done that, old news which won't appeal to anyone now.  They need something fresh.

We were talking about Nintendo's "Core" audience so I didn't mention them. Plus, they are not really long-term franchises. As you said, Wii Fit was huge for the Wii but Wii Fit U probably won't be nearly as big.

I believe Nintendo is definitely working on the Nintendogs, Wii Sorts, Wii Fit, of the Wii U. It will likely use NFC or a new peripheral. If not, it will use the Gamepad in a way that nobody saw coming. Either way, I'm sure Nintendo is working on something.

Nintendo's core audience can't lift their fortunes about a GC level.   If they could, then GC would have been more successful as it was more 'core' than Wii.

They need their expanded audience, but I think the dual analog gamepad is a huge deterient to that very audience which is why NintendoLand is no Wii Sports.



 

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Hypothetically, if the Wii U ends as something of a flop for Nintendo, relatively speaking, what direction will they go next? Will they abandon motion controls, abandon the gamepad concept, or perhaps revisit a Wii situation where motion controls are the primary control type? Or will they scrap all of that and trot out a new gimmick/innovation?



To the Moon!

On a serious note, Nintendo will be fine. The Wii made Nintendo millions so they can survive a "failure" this gen even more than one gen and considering how well the 3DS is selling they aren't going anywhere. Like Salnax said, worst case scenario, the Wii U sells like the GC, but they will still make profit out of it (maybe not in the first year).  

Nintendo can take a 20 billion yen loss ($257 million) every year until 2052, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. 



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JEMC said:
Screamapillar said:
JEMC said:

Well, if WiiU doesn't perform as Nintendo wants, I think that Nintendo would wait the usual 5 years or so to launch a new console, otherwise it could be seen as a betrayal to their WiiU users like SEGA did with the early move from the Saturn to the Dreamcast.


Wasn't there a four year gap between Saturn and Dreamcast?  '95-'99 in America, I believe.  That's not too unusual.

Yes, there were 4 years between them, but the impression that the people got was that they did it too soon, and that they didn't even maximized what the Saturn could have done.

Right, Saturn just never got the necessary software support to keep it afloat.  Dearth of software is always what leads to the early death of a game platform.  They can say it was the specs being too difficult to program for, or the marketing being off, or the price, which could all be true, but at the end of the day it was that N64 and PSOne had lots of high-quality games that people wanted, and Saturn just didn't.



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Soundwave said:
Claymore said:
Little tip Nintendo made more money off the Gamecube than Sony did off the PS2.


False actually. Sony made a tremendous amount of money off the PS2. 

Nintendo made a lot of money in those years because of the GBA and also because it was the peak of the Pokemon craze with all the merchandising/movies/etc. raking up huge dollars. 


GameCube was profitable for Nintendo.  They made some money on the hardware itself, but combined with the software and accessories sales it was a very profitable business for them.  GBA and Pokemon contributed heavily to profits too, obviously.



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The rumbling you hear is the Wii U getting ready to takeoff. Launch pad, Wii U Direct tomorrow, get ready.