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That guy picked the easiest target since Hiroshima.



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Well, if sony wants to commit financial suicide. Then they should buy Xbox



Yay!!!

Miguel_Zorro said:
This guy is not a blogger, and he's not a Sony fanboy. He's just a guy who has a hate-on for Steve Ballmer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/05/12/oops-5-ceos-that-should-have-already-been-fired-cisco-ge-walmart-sears-microsoft/3/

#1 – Steve Ballmer, Microsoft. Without a doubt, Mr. Ballmer is the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company today. Not only has he singlehandedly steered Microsoft out of some of the fastest growing and most lucrative tech markets (mobile music, handsets and tablets) but in the process he has sacrificed the growth and profits of not only his company but “ecosystem” companies such as Dell, Hewlett Packard and even Nokia. The reach of his bad leadership has extended far beyond Microsoft when it comes to destroying shareholder value – and jobs.

Microsoft peaked at $60/share in 2000, just as Mr. Ballmer took the reins. By 2002 it had fallen into the $20s, and has only rarely made it back to its current low $30s value. And no wonder, since execution of new rollouts were constantly delayed, and ended up with products so lacking in any enhanced value that they left customers scrambling to find ways to avoid upgrades. By Mr. Ballmer’s own admission Vista had over 200 man-years too much cost, and its launch, years late, met users avoiding upgrades. Windows 7 and Office 2010 did nothing to excite tech users, in corporations or at home, as Apple took the leadership position in personal technology.

So today Microsoft, after dumping Zune, dumping its tablet, dumping Windows CE and other mobile products, is still the same company Mr. Ballmer took control over a decade ago. Microsoft is PC company, nothing more, as demand for PCs shifts to mobile. Years late to market, he has bet the company on Windows 8 – as well as the future of Dell, HP, Nokia and others. An insane bet for any CEO – and one that would have been avoided entirely had the Microsoft Board replaced Mr. Ballmer years ago with a CEO that understands the fast pace of technology shifts and would have kept Microsoft current with market trends.

Although he’s #19 on Forbes list of billionaires, Mr. Ballmer should not be allowed to take such incredible risks with investor money and employee jobs. Best he be retired to enjoy his fortune rather than deprive investors and employees of building theirs.


While what he types I dont agree on. But Steve Ballmer is a bad CEO anyway. 



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KHlover said:
Turkish said:
KHlover said:
Who even thought about this at all? How should an (almost?) bankrupt company buy one of Microsoft's biggest brands. That's just ridiculous...


Don't know what is a bigger lol, this or the article.

Clearly the article (+rumor). We all'd get banned for even thinking of the turd this guy wrote.


Even worse the analyst get paid for it.



sales2099 said:
green_sky said:
sales2099 said:
green_sky said:
sales2099 said:
MS can BUY Sony with 9 months worth of profits.

The fact that this was even brought up is ludicrous. Sony fans seriously elevate their God to levels I can only facepalm at.

What the hell does that have to do with Sony fans. Think before you type. 

I think  a Sony fan (Adam Hartung) brought up that thought that Sony should buy Xbox.

Logically, thats the only type of person that could suggest it.

That might be so but stop generalising people who like sony based on one muddle head person. I don't generalize all XBOX fans based on your behaviour. 

So I was right. I can generalize one person after the other until I literally find hundreds of people in any given month. But as for my group, you cant generalize based on me because im a unique snowflake, hefting a burden for the rest of my bretherin :)

2 things. i'm likely one of the top 3 least bias users on the site, and i'm positive you couldn't put that Sony spin stuff on me.

you are one hell of a unique snowflake. kind of like Nintendos Rol, but without the clever threads. 

and Sony doesn't seem to have one of those on this site. who is Sonys snowflake?



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"Failure is already inevitable. At this stage, not even a new CEO can save Microsoft. Game over. Ballmer loses. And if you keep your money invested in Microsoft it will disappear along with the company.”

Daily reminder that this individual most likely got paid to spew out this opinionated garbage founded on nothing.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
This guy is not a blogger, and he's not a Sony fanboy. He's just a guy who has a hate-on for Steve Ballmer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/05/12/oops-5-ceos-that-should-have-already-been-fired-cisco-ge-walmart-sears-microsoft/3/

#1 – Steve Ballmer, Microsoft. Without a doubt, Mr. Ballmer is the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company today. Not only has he singlehandedly steered Microsoft out of some of the fastest growing and most lucrative tech markets (mobile music, handsets and tablets) but in the process he has sacrificed the growth and profits of not only his company but “ecosystem” companies such as Dell, Hewlett Packard and even Nokia. The reach of his bad leadership has extended far beyond Microsoft when it comes to destroying shareholder value – and jobs.

Microsoft peaked at $60/share in 2000, just as Mr. Ballmer took the reins. By 2002 it had fallen into the $20s, and has only rarely made it back to its current low $30s value. And no wonder, since execution of new rollouts were constantly delayed, and ended up with products so lacking in any enhanced value that they left customers scrambling to find ways to avoid upgrades. By Mr. Ballmer’s own admission Vista had over 200 man-years too much cost, and its launch, years late, met users avoiding upgrades. Windows 7 and Office 2010 did nothing to excite tech users, in corporations or at home, as Apple took the leadership position in personal technology.

So today Microsoft, after dumping Zune, dumping its tablet, dumping Windows CE and other mobile products, is still the same company Mr. Ballmer took control over a decade ago. Microsoft is PC company, nothing more, as demand for PCs shifts to mobile. Years late to market, he has bet the company on Windows 8 – as well as the future of Dell, HP, Nokia and others. An insane bet for any CEO – and one that would have been avoided entirely had the Microsoft Board replaced Mr. Ballmer years ago with a CEO that understands the fast pace of technology shifts and would have kept Microsoft current with market trends.

Although he’s #19 on Forbes list of billionaires, Mr. Ballmer should not be allowed to take such incredible risks with investor money and employee jobs. Best he be retired to enjoy his fortune rather than deprive investors and employees of building theirs.


While what he types I dont agree on. But Steve Ballmer is a bad CEO anyway. 

I see the bad CEO comment propogated a lot, but really it is pretty hard to fathom. If you remove the share price from the equation as the Stock price for MS was insanely overvalued when Ballmer took the reigns and he doesn't control share price, the market does. If you actually look at what he has done his record is actually pretty enviable with very few doing better, trippled earnings and profit and kept costs under control, kept a leading market share despite extreme government scrutiny and massively increased enterprise marketshare and the company has also been paying out a constant stream of dividends. Has he made lots of mistakes, absolutely, but please point to a CEO that hasn't, everything is easy in hindsight.



Is there an expression "drinking glue" which is used to describe doing something more insane than sniffing glue and basing decisions on one's cognitive state after that?  If not, I say "drinking glue" be rolled out now to match this expectation.  How the heck do people become "experts" and make suggestions like that?  Well, it might explain why Pachter still has a job.  As wrong as Pachter is in predicting the future, I could never see him making a comment like that.

I seriously need to become a consultant in the games industry.  Seriously, I can't believe how off people are here.

Let's see:

* Sony has major financial issues.

* Sony built up the Playstation brand.

* Microsoft renamed their gaming initiative XBox.

* Microsoft wants to take over the living room, using XBox as their brand.

 

And Microsoft should sell their brand to "Someone like Sony"?  Really?

Heck, as insane as "Like Barnes and Noble" is, it is more sane than Sony.



Nah, I'm pretty sure THQ is going to buy Xbox.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

To add to the others that have contributed actual sources for a more honest picture of what Hartung's about, I give you this: http://www.neowin.net/news/latest-microsoft-analyst-attack-uses-misleading-numbers

Sounds like Forbes even pulled it from their site. Dude's trolling, no other explanation.