It is not like any opinion though. In politics, for instance, we educate ourselves to form our preferences. When it comes to colors we just have our preferences. Same goes for the matter of which sexes we are attracted to.

So, the point I was trying to make was that:

1 - We don't know the answer to the question in the OP nor to the question that I asked. And discussing the matters won't give us accurate answers. (I mean, we are no scientists, and even they don't know.)

2 - The answers to the questions are equally insignificant in both cases; others' opinions on these matters will not affect our lives. (Unlike things like politics.)

I agree with that. Most people just need to get over the fact that homosexuals live in this world and that they are different than us. In fact, straight people should be happy. It means that less woman are likely to be picked up by another guy.

Edit: I should specify that when I said "different than us" I didn't mean it in an offensive manner.

Me. They see me and just can't help themselves.

1. Yeah, I said that's what I think. I don't claim to know because I don't know. Until the nature vs nurture debate ends, there's no point in claiming that anyone knows. I could be wrong.

2. I do not think I understand your question, but I'll try to answer. Environment is not just natural environment such as land, air, water, food, etc. By environment, I'm including everything other than biological factors. Basically, every factor after birth is included in environmental factors. This can include social structure, family, relationships, culture, values, etc. I should have said environmental & social factors, but I thought you knew that already. I hope that answers your question.

3. Again, I don't think I understand your question. I thought it was agreed that it was just a matter of preference. That's why it's called sexual preference. What are you asking?

1. Yeah, I'm sure you did. I did too. I used to stare at penises too, but that didn't mean I was gay. Of course not, children naturally stare at body parts that they don't get to see often. It's being curious; that doesn't necessarily mean you were sexually aroused.

And besides, you went back to age 6. Even if you were sexually aroused at age 6, that still wouldn't disprove environmental factors as being the main cause. Were you sexually aroused when you were age 1? Of course not, you couldn't even decipher genders. With that said, how is it possible that you could have already had a preference? Seriously, how can you have a gender preference if you can't even decipher gender? That's like saying a child born blind has a color preference...It makes no sense.

2. Why are you going off topic? You obviously made a thread to discuss this subject. Don't question me about my motives when I'm doing exactly what the thread asks.

3. I don't care what you call it. What matters is you saying you're against homosexuality as if you want to rid the world of their existence.

Someone else used the term "preference" to describe his opinion. He basically stated that people grow up finding particular traits attractive. Some people like black girls, some prefer skinny, some like redheads, etc. He stated that by the way you grow up, you might just find other people of the same gender attractive because it's what you find beautiful.

He used the term preference, and your reasoning sounded similar to his.

Some gay people are strictly only attracted to their own gener. I understand most aren't, but if being homosexual was simply a matter of finding one type of person attractive over another, how come many gay people have no interest in the opposite gender?

When I was refering to a failed marriage, I was refering to a homosexual denying his homosecuality and attempting to live a monogomous, heterosexual marriage. This doesn't work usually, but if you made me marry a women I didn't find particularly attractive, but I still liked her personality (you're getting married, you have to like them as a person) I would probably still do fine. I might not be as sexually active as I would otherwise, but regardless of my type, I'm still going to get in the mood at night and have a wife right there.

We don't have a cure for homosexuality, and there are different levels of homosexual conduct. A lot of people are a little bit gay. Even if I found another male attractive at 1 point, that it perfectly normal. While I still believe homosexuality is a disorder (no different from being albino), it's not a dangerous one and perfectly livable. It's probably easier living as a homosexual then an albino lol.

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The way you are looking at it is part of the social issue. Gay straight relationships are not the only ones that fail. Plenty of straight people end up with three or more long term partners during their lives. The sociatal issue is that people want to judge others on who they love. So If you fall in love with another man, then you are gay, you can never have a straight relationship because people have judged you. This is what I see as the real issue. 

I think you get rid of the stigma, and people would have no issue showing their love. There should never be a point were someone, is like "I love this girl, but people know I am gay, so I can't have that relationship" or visa versa. Who you love is not a choice, you do have the choice to repulse, or embrace it. 

There should be no issue with say two girls being in a relationship for 10 years. Then at 33 one finds a guy they like and is like, I want to have kids, and I want my own kids, and I want to raise them with their father. Why do people make such an issue. So she loved a women, now she loves a man, it is not flip floping, it is what she desires.

!. We both could be wrong, for now I sill side with the general concensus. The Nature vs. Nurture debate strongly favors nature, and I'll believe what the scientists believe as I think they are the most educated on the subject.

2. No it doesn't and what you're saying is obvious. However there is no place in the world void of homosexuality. So are you saying that there isn't enough diversity in the world for one environment to exist which doesn't have the factors which lead to homosexuality? There is no 1 population (small representable group of people) in the world which isn't homosexual despite all of our cultural, social, family, and geographical variation?

3. It was agreed upon by whom? I haven't read a single scientific article which claims gay people are gay because it's their preference. Many gay people wish to be heterosexual and feel ashamed when first discovering their condition. Every gay person in this debate has mentioned a period of self loathing or disrespect. If it was just a matter of preference, one could easily mate with someone who isn't their type could they not? Many gay people just have no attraction to people of the opposite gender, if it's just preference, this makes no sense.

Actually, you don't ...

Canada - 1988
A study of 5,514 college and university students under the age of 25 found 1% who were homosexual and 1% who were bisexual.[6]

Denmark - 1992
A random survey found that 2.7% of the 1,373 men who responded to their questionnaire had homosexual experience (intercourse).[7]

France - 1992
A study of 20,055 people found that 4.1% of the men and 2.6% of the women had at least one occurrence of intercourse with person of the same sex during their lifetime.[8]

Ireland - 2006
A study of the responses of 7,441 individuals, conducted by the ESRI, found that 2.7% of men and 1.2% of women self-identified as homosexual or bisexual. A question based on a variant of the Kinsey scale found that 5.3% of men and 5.8% of women reported some same-sex attraction. Of those surveyed, 7.1% of men and 4.7% of women reported a homosexual experience some time in their life so far. It also found that 4.4% of men and 1.4% of women reported a "genital same-sex experience" (oral or anal sex, or any other genital contact) in their life so far.[9] The study was commissioned and published by the Crisis Pregnancy Agency in partnership with the Department of Health and Children.

Norway - 1988
In a random survey of 6,300 Norwegians, 3.5% of the men and 3% of the women reported that they had a homosexual experience sometime in their life.[10]

Norway - 2003
According to Durex Global Sex Survey for 2003, 12% of Norwegian respondents have had homosexual sex.[11]

United Kingdom - 1992
A study of 8,337 British men found that 6.1% have had a "homosexual experience" and 3.6% had "1+ homosexual partner ever."[12]

United Kingdom - 2005

HM Treasury and the Department of Trade and Industry completed a survey to help the Government analyse the financial implications of the Civil Partnerships Act (such as pensions, inheritance and tax benefits). They concluded that there were 3.6 m gay people in Britain—around 6% of the total population or 1 in 16.66 people.[13]

United Kingdom - 2010
A representative survey of 238,206 Britons, exclusive to their categories, found 1% identified as gay or lesbian and 0.5% said they were bisexual. A further 0.5% self-identified as "other", and 3% responded as "do not know" or refused to answer.[14] In total this adds up to 5% of people who do not identify as heterosexual. Ben Summerskill, Chief Executive of the gay equality charity Stonewall stated: "This is is the first time that people were asked and data collection happened on doorsteps or over the phone, which may deter people from giving accurate responses - particularly if someone isn't openly gay at home." Stonewall worked with 600 major employers and their experience had shown that these statistics increased when people were regularly asked about sexual orientation as part of general monitoring information. It was therefore suggested that much of the 3% who answered as other may simply be homosexual or bisexual and a percentage of people may have lied when they claimed to be heterosexual

While the percentage of gay people generally stays (far) under 10% of the population, there is a massive difference in reported statistics based on the country you're in.

What about homosexuals who wish to be heterosexuals? If you want a family, and want to love women, then why is your body denying you that freedom? Some people might hate yellow, but if Yellow was for whatever reason, the colour people are suppose to like, I'm sure a lot of people would just be okay with it.

Being homosexual isn't the same as likeing a particular type of person. I have my preferences for women, but that doesn't remove larger build, or Indian women from the list of people I could reproduce with and live a happy life with.

So why can many gay people engage in heterosexual activity at all? Not all homo's want to be homo, if you think it was just a matter of preference, why can't these people just go heterosexual?

Homosexuality is something your born with, it's out of your control. It's like schizophrenea, people don't wish to be schizophrenic. Shizophrenic people don't just grow up thinking crazy is right, and it's okay to feed your kids dog food because there isn't poison in dog food. It's a defect, it takes 20 years to kick in, but it's a randomly occuring mutation which 1% the population experiences.

Homosexuality is not opinion. If it were then there would not be gay people who wish they were straight, but there are. Gay people wouldn't go to church to pray their condition gets better, they would just mate with women.