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Why are people gay?

Choice/Preference 21 15.79%
 
High Sex Drives. 4 3.01%
 
DNA Replication Errors 6 4.51%
 
Defects during Pregnancy 10 7.52%
 
Social/Psychological envi... 17 12.78%
 
Hormone Imbalance 15 11.28%
 
Genetics - There is a Gay Gene 19 14.29%
 
Normal Disorder like Albinism 3 2.26%
 
Normal, Non Harmful Random Mutation 12 9.02%
 
I don't know 26 19.55%
 
Total:133
Michael-5 on 19 January 2013
nero said:

My point is no matter what you love: "White, black, straight, gay, trans, bi.." it states that love knows no gender, color or whatsoever. Just be happy and don't do harm. Labels must nos exist, but we are to blame because of this crappy society.

So you thing homosexuality is nothing unusual. No more different then preferences in the type of people we love.

So I raise this question. How come most homosexuals aren't at all attracted to people of the opposite gender? If homosexuality was merely preference, then how come marriages fail when gay people are married to heterosexuals?

I mean I'm not into black girls, but if one with a good personality came along I could still be happy and actively sexual. I couldn't do that with another man, and many heterosexuals can't do that with people of the opposite gender.

If it's just a matter of preference, like enjoying RPG's over shooters for video games, how come RPG fans can still play shooters, but in the world of homosexuals, homos stay homo?



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Cub on 19 January 2013
Jay520 said:

There's been a thread on this if you want to read it.

 

I personally don't think it's biological, at least not for most people. People don't even have an understanding of gender until after birth, much less any attractions to any specific genders. Likewise, I don't see how people would already have sexual preference before they can even understand the difference in genders. How does that work?


I am going off topic here but that's an interesting question and it deserves its own thread! before the age of 13-12 (i.e. before I started masturbating , before I learnt aboout sex and before desiring men sexually)  I used to stare at the same type of people that I am attracted to sexually right now, I see them in public places and just stare, thinking they were beautiful creatures. 

I wonder how everybody else's experiences were before puberty, make an epic thread about it Jay!

OT:

What people don't realise is that Not all gay people are gay on the same level, there are 6 shades of gay out there, resulting in wide variations of resutls from studies  like the one posted by happysquirl.



Player1x3 on 19 January 2013
DieAppleDie said:
Natural born hormone inbalance i guess....not that i care...


Natural born imbalance? lol



Michael-5 on 19 January 2013
Jay520 said:

Michael-5 said:

What about random mutations? A lot of disorders are cause by random mutations which affect the population as a whole, and have nothing to do with inherit traits.


Also children raised by same sex and opposite gender parents have identical chances of becoming heterosexuals. If environment made a difference, how come it doesn't here?

As for preferences, a few people came up with this. However, twins separated at birth, raised in different environments typically share similar taste in spouces. They usually marry people with a similar background, similar personalities, and even similar names. Why then can there exist 1 homo and 1 heterosexual in identical twins? It's more common in fraternal twins, but even in identical twins, who are raised in the same household, one can be gay, and the other not.


Did you read what I posted? I didn't disregard biological explanations altogether. I said I don't believe they happen in most people. 

Also, pay close attention to the following:

"There probably aren't any definitive evinronmental factors that for sure causes certain sexual preference though. Considering how complicated and bizarre the human mind is, I'm pretty sure the cause of sexual preference is also complicated and perhaps bizarre."

I never said gay parents would likely raise gay children. A child's environment is much more complicated than that. Parents make up a very small component of a child's overall environment. There are hundreds of other significant complex factors which all have different affects on different people. 

You're actually helping to prove my point with that twin study. If there are two identical twins, one as homosexual and one that's heterosexual, obviously that shows that biology wasn't a major cause. Rather, they developed into their preference as they aged.

The reason I don't like the biological explanation is because people don't even have an understanding of gender until after birth. Likewise, I don't see how people would already have sexual preference before they can even understand the difference in genders. How does that work? Have you ever seen a 1 year old showing any homosexual or heterosexual tendencies? No, chances are they don't have any sexual preference yet.

You said it's probably like 10-15% biological or something didn't you and that it's mostly psychological? You're saying it now that most homosexuals aren't homosexual for biological reasons.

If environment is the cause to homosexuality, how come we see relatively similar populations of homosexuals among all ethnic groups? Surely there's bound to be enough diversity and variation among peoples lifestyles in all the world for some population somewhere to be without homosexuals, but there isn't.

If it was just a matter of preference, couldn't homosexuals just live heterosexual lives? Why is this an impossibility?



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Boutros on 19 January 2013

Is the fairy of fabulous that spread sparkly dust all over little boys and little girls selected by father fruity.

Should be in the poll IMO.



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nero on 19 January 2013
Michael-5 said:
nero said:

My point is no matter what you love: "White, black, straight, gay, trans, bi.." it states that love knows no gender, color or whatsoever. Just be happy and don't do harm. Labels must nos exist, but we are to blame because of this crappy society.

So you thing homosexuality is nothing unusual. No more different then preferences in the type of people we love.

So I raise this question. How come most homosexuals aren't at all attracted to people of the opposite gender? If homosexuality was merely preference, then how come marriages fail when gay people are married to heterosexuals?

I mean I'm not into black girls, but if one with a good personality came along I could still be happy and actively sexual. I couldn't do that with another man, and many heterosexuals can't do that with people of the opposite gender.

If it's just a matter of preference, like enjoying RPG's over shooters for video games, how come RPG fans can still play shooters, but in the world of homosexuals, homos stay homo?

Now I'm confused, I never said thet homosexuality is a preference, the society, again, labels it as sexual preference meaning gay, straight, etc.

 Answering your questions. There are many ways of attraction but if you mean sexually, it's the same reason you wouldn't be attracted to your same gender. Gay people just because they are gay doesn't mean they're not attracted to women.

By marriages of the opposite gender you mean, gay and straight men/woman. Because in our society as it is seen with terrible eyes. There are couples that are gays, both of them, and still marriage giving a fake meaning of marriage, because they do their own roundevouz.

So you said you have never been attracted to a man just once. I don't say it's bad but it's normal, even specialists say that.

You can change to whetever you want to be, it's our own bussiness so who who nows what will be next.

 



Nightwish224 on 19 January 2013

Genetics.



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Michael-5 on 19 January 2013
Cub said:
Jay520 said:

There's been a thread on this if you want to read it.

 

I personally don't think it's biological, at least not for most people. People don't even have an understanding of gender until after birth, much less any attractions to any specific genders. Likewise, I don't see how people would already have sexual preference before they can even understand the difference in genders. How does that work?


I am going off topic here but that's an interesting question and it deserves its own thread! before the age of 13-12 (i.e. before I started masturbating , before I learnt aboout sex and before desiring men sexually)  I used to stare at the same type of people that I am attracted to sexually right now, I see them in public places and just stare, thinking they were beautiful creatures. 

I wonder how everybody else's experiences were before puberty, make an epic thread about it Jay!

OT:

What people don't realise is that Not all gay people are gay on the same level, there are 6 shades of gay out there, resulting in wide variations of resutls from studies  like the one posted by happysquirl.

I used to stare at boobs when I was like 6. I think homosexuality is biological in origin, and people are just born with it.

However why does my view matter to you Jay? Like you said, why do I care about other peoples lifestyle if it doesn't affect me in any way? Why do you care that I view homosexuality in the same way I view schizophrenea, as a biological disorder predestined onto you. Schizophrenic people, who are born with the disease, don't develop symptoms until their early 20's. Not everything happens immediatly.

The thing is, I have nothing against gay people, but I view the homosexual condition as a disorder, like the majority of scientists do. Is this a bad thing that I view things for the way it is? I don't care about what people view homosexuality in terms of social or religious environments, and isn't that enough? I treat homosexuals fairly, I don't feel pity for them like an autistic child, but I do sympathize because of the way people are treated.

However, I'm not going to change my view unless you show me a reason to. If researchers relate it to biological factors, if they call it a disorder then so will I.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 19 January 2013

Why do 5% of the population have yellow as thier favorite colour?

 

Is it caused by the Social/Psychological environment they grew up in?

Is it caused during pregnancy?

Is it caused by a genetic trait, like skin color?

Is it a decision people make simply because they want to be different?

 

Hmm...



NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Why do 5% of the population have yellow as thier favorite colour?

 

Is it caused by the Social/Psychological environment they grew up in?

Is it caused during pregnancy?

Is it caused by a genetic trait, like skin color?

Is it a decision people make simply because they want to be different?

 

Hmm...

I would think having a favorite color would just be an opinion. But what affects that opinion?