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oni-link said:
Dragon246 said:

Its about oil. South Asian sea are rich in oil reserves. No one wants the fucking island.
That said. Nothing will happen. Although concerns over hardwares can happen. War, not so much.
Sony and ninty will be interested. China has already stopped exports of rare metals to japan, thats why japan is contacting India for that.

China is all about boasting. They will never launch an assault on any country.


Vietnam and India would beg to differ.



I am from one of these countries, so I know that.

Yep, china is all about boasting. Every nuclear nation knows that going into war is suicidal. Both India and China will oblitrate each other in the war, then have that much arsnal. So no, 1962 isnt happening again.



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oni-link said:
the2real4mafol said:
bonkers555 said:
Xxain said:
I had to stop reading the Rape of Nanjing. That shit is barbaric

I know. But pro-Japanese people here don't awknowledge it. Most people here don't even want to learn about it.

I can understand that the Chinese hate them for that, the Japanese did some messed up shit between 1937 and 1945. But ain't the Chinese just as bad, if they decided to do such a massacre to the Japanese?


not to mention what is happening in Tibet lately.

As a Buddhist I have protested the Chinese goverment for what they have done in Tibet for last few years. But lets be serious here, Tibet is nothing in comparison with Nanking. Both are evil but one is 10x more evil and I'll let you guess which one.



Just to add, is it fine to punish the grandchildren of the people for the crimes committed by their fore fathers. If so, Europe and US should be burned to hell for exploiting Asia for hundreds of years.



As a partially Japanese person (born in America), I am kind of offended by how some people are responding to this.

I do not want to be offended, but I can't help it. I am not going to say it didn't happen or that it wasn't so bad, but a lot of these people talking about the Nanking thing are being way too one-sided with it. The people at the time doing this "evil" stuff are not the people living now in Japan, and those who deny it are not really any different than conspiracy theorists you see in America.


The people who committed these crimes in Nanking, you have to realize, are not doing it because they're evil. It's war, and war twists peoples' minds. Rape, child molestation, mutilation, murder, etc. are things that are done a lot in wars and a lot of the time are undocumented. Just like how the Nazi's were able to do what they did, the Japanese were brainwashed. Why punish the current generation of Japanese for things they didn't do? Why be so hung up on it? Of course it is bad that the Japanese are not writing the history as it happened, and that can really piss some people off but it's such a petty thing to fight over, and I am sure that it isn't necessary to insult and slander them for the truth to finally be available uncensored.


On one of the videos that was linked in here, this is what one of the people said:


"So what. Japs and germans did both evil things. But i never heard that germans did such things, what the japfags did to the chinese people. Also the germans accepted their crimes and today they still pay for it. The japfags, known for smalldicks, childmolesting and strange, disgusting culture are super-inferior subhumans, denying their crimes. I hope one day, when chinese becomes the superpower, they will let japs pay bigtime for it. Your pig-emperor shall be dragged naked through the streets."

The attitude people are having towards this situation is the same kind of attitude that even let what happened in Nanking occur in the first place. There's a better way to handle this.



MDMAlliance said:

As a partially Japanese person (born in America), I am kind of offended by how some people are responding to this.

I do not want to be offended, but I can't help it. I am not going to say it didn't happen or that it wasn't so bad, but a lot of these people talking about the Nanking thing are being way too one-sided with it. The people at the time doing this "evil" stuff are not the people living now in Japan, and those who deny it are not really any different than conspiracy theorists you see in America.


The people who committed these crimes in Nanking, you have to realize, are not doing it because they're evil. It's war, and war twists peoples' minds. Rape, child molestation, mutilation, murder, etc. are things that are done a lot in wars and a lot of the time are undocumented. Just like how the Nazi's were able to do what they did, the Japanese were brainwashed. Why punish the current generation of Japanese for things they didn't do? Why be so hung up on it? Of course it is bad that the Japanese are not writing the history as it happened, and that can really piss some people off but it's such a petty thing to fight over, and I am sure that it isn't necessary to insult and slander them for the truth to finally be available uncensored.


On one of the videos that was linked in here, this is what one of the people said:


"So what. Japs and germans did both evil things. But i never heard that germans did such things, what the japfags did to the chinese people. Also the germans accepted their crimes and today they still pay for it. The japfags, known for smalldicks, childmolesting and strange, disgusting culture are super-inferior subhumans, denying their crimes. I hope one day, when chinese becomes the superpower, they will let japs pay bigtime for it. Your pig-emperor shall be dragged naked through the streets."

The attitude people are having towards this situation is the same kind of attitude that even let what happened in Nanking occur in the first place. There's a better way to handle this.

I agree, the quote you gave is out of place. But I also think the Japanese don't handle their past and the war-crimes they commited right. That's why it has such a impact on todays perception of Japan in far east.

And I can't understand posters here, that throw away the war-crimes of Japan and condemn China for - so far nothing. They didn't do anything to Japan and I don't believe it will come to ugly things like war in this conflict. That is more of a power struggle for economic advantages.



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Mnementh said:

I agree, the quote you gave is out of place. But I also think the Japanese don't handle their past and the war-crimes they commited right. That's why it has such a impact on todays perception of Japan in far east.

And I can't understand posters here, that throw away the war-crimes of Japan and condemn China for - so far nothing. They didn't do anything to Japan and I don't believe it will come to ugly things like war in this conflict. That is more of a power struggle for economic advantages.


However it doesn't matter how they handle it if people are going to be rabid about it.  I honestly think that Japan will eventually handle it better, and making inappropriate retorts about the Japanese (because even the relatively tame ones are out of place, things saying how the Japanese have zero honor) will not change anything.



ZaneWane said:
the2real4mafol said:
bonkers555 said:
Xxain said:
I had to stop reading the Rape of Nanjing. That shit is barbaric

I know. But pro-Japanese people here don't awknowledge it. Most people here don't even want to learn about it.

I can understand that the Chinese hate them for that, the Japanese did some messed up shit between 1937 and 1945. But ain't the Chinese just as bad, if they decided to do such a massacre to the Japanese?

 

nothing compare to what japan done to chinese

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVwErfx1bpo

Nothing ? really? Not even the gas chambers and ovens and concentration camps of the Nazi's?
You do not go blaming modern Germans for the holocaust, why blame modern japanes for their own equivelent? 



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CityOfNoobs said:
ZaneWane said:
the2real4mafol said:
bonkers555 said:
Xxain said:
I had to stop reading the Rape of Nanjing. That shit is barbaric

I know. But pro-Japanese people here don't awknowledge it. Most people here don't even want to learn about it.

I can understand that the Chinese hate them for that, the Japanese did some messed up shit between 1937 and 1945. But ain't the Chinese just as bad, if they decided to do such a massacre to the Japanese?

 

nothing compare to what japan done to chinese

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVwErfx1bpo

Nothing ? really? Not even the gas chambers and ovens and concentration camps of the Nazi's?
You do not go blaming modern Germans for the holocaust, why blame modern japanes for their own equivelent? 

You're right but no country is a saint anymore, it don't matter if they won any wars or not, all countries have commited similiar atrocities. It's better to just move on i think 



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ZaneWane said:
the2real4mafol said:
bonkers555 said:
Xxain said:
I had to stop reading the Rape of Nanjing. That shit is barbaric

I know. But pro-Japanese people here don't awknowledge it. Most people here don't even want to learn about it.

I can understand that the Chinese hate them for that, the Japanese did some messed up shit between 1937 and 1945. But ain't the Chinese just as bad, if they decided to do such a massacre to the Japanese?

 

nothing compare to what japan done to chinese

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVwErfx1bpo

I know the chinese have done nothing to the japanese yet, but if such a war happened now. We all know it would be bloody and that the Chinese would probably destroy as much as Japan as possible



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the2real4mafol said:
bonkers555 said:
Xxain said:
I had to stop reading the Rape of Nanjing. That shit is barbaric

I know. But pro-Japanese people here don't awknowledge it. Most people here don't even want to learn about it.

I can understand that the Chinese hate them for that, the Japanese did some messed up shit between 1937 and 1945. But ain't the Chinese just as bad, if they decided to do such a massacre to the Japanese?

Is it any worse than what the Chinese did to their own people during the communist movement?