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Birimbau said:
ethomaz said:

Netyaroze said:

Yes why not the 88xx series is a perfect fit for next gen regarding die/tdp if 78xx series is anything to go by.

 Especially here were alot of people have very conservative views regarding next gen power people will be shocked. A machine with similar silicon/tdp as 360/PS3 was at launch would be really strong in 2013 giving highend gamer pcs (single gpu) a run for their money.

The actual HD 8800M is a mobile version based in the HD 7800 series... Xbox will use a desktop version of 8800 in 28nm.

Of course that just my guess.

The HD 8800M have ~900 GFLOPS... too weak... the desktop version is new and it is supose to have over 2000 GFLOPS.

yes, between 3-4 TFLOPS:


wasn't that table confirmed to be fake? maybe I'm remembering wrong :S

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M.U.G.E.N said:

wasn't that table confirmed to be fake? maybe I'm remembering wrong :S

OT: new systems are upon us :D Exciting times

Fake or not I can say for sure the HD 8800 desktop version will have more than 2.5 TFLOPS... the HD 7870 have 2.25 TFLOPS.

 



osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
Bladeforce said:
All that power (For a console) and all you are going to get are re hashes like Call of Duty 10 or Halo 13, it's starting to sound like a series of Jaws movies now, pretty dire


LOL, yes what are you looking forward, take away mario and zelda, and what do you have with wii u, no third party support and last gen graphics, atleast on the new xbox  we will get every single third party game with amazing graphics, not mention halo5, forza5 and gears of war 4 which will all be amazing games.

I do not agree with bladeforce, but your comment is probably even more ignorant than his and mostly based on opinions.


not really all signes point to wii u being a wii but with bad sales. i know mario and zelda are great but being stuck  with 7 year old tech is just nasty.

No one on this site thinks the PS4 and the 720 will be on par with the Wii U, we all know those consoles are going to be more powerful. 7 year old tech is not true at all, especially considering the Wii U specs are highly modified version of their retail counterparts and also highly optimized. You should learn a few things on here.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136756&page=1

i heard this from plenty of wii u fans, the fact is we have developers, like metro last light and even team ninja saying wii u is on par with current gen, that with the fact that almost everyt single port is inferior, but keep thinking the wii u has some secret hidden powers.



ethomaz said:

Netyaroze said:

Yes why not the 88xx series is a perfect fit for next gen regarding die/tdp if 78xx series is anything to go by.

 Especially here were alot of people have very conservative views regarding next gen power people will be shocked. A machine with similar silicon/tdp as 360/PS3 was at launch would be really strong in 2013 giving highend gamer pcs (single gpu) a run for their money.

The actual HD 8800M is a mobile version based in the HD 7800 series... Xbox will use a desktop version of 8800 in 28nm.

Of course that just my guess.

The HD 8800M have ~900 GFLOPS... too weak... the desktop version is new and it is supose to have over 2000 GFLOPS.

I don't understand why you are bringing mobile GPUs into play I havent mentioned them ? There is absolutely no need to run next gen gpus with 30 Watt if you have a permanent powersupply. So the flops for mobile gpus mean nothing in a console. Ofcourse MS isn't going down that route. It potentially could be GCN or GCN2 but it would be a huge step in any case.  



Netyaroze said:

I don't understand why you are bringing mobile GPUs into play I havent mentioned them ? There is absolutely no need to run next gen gpus with 30 Watt if you have a permanent powersupply. So the flops for mobile gpus mean nothing in a console. Ofcourse MS isn't going down that route. It potentially could be GCN or GCN2 but it would be a huge step in any case.

lol I just misread your first comment... sorry... I'm a lillte sleepy now.



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i want the nextxbox or ps4 to have a clear power difference, so i can now which one to choose.



Netyaroze said:


Yes why not the 88xx series is a perfect fit for next gen regarding die/tdp if 78xx series is anything to go by. 

 

Especially here were alot of people have very conservative views regarding next gen power people will be shocked. A machine with similar silicon/tdp as 360/PS3 was at launch would be really strong in 2013 giving highend gamer pcs (single gpu) a run for their money.

 


Nah. Not a perfect fit.
A Radeon 8870 is predicted to have a TDP of 160 watts, so I would assume they would be consuming anywhere from 130 watts of power or more just for the GPU alone.

Remember, PC graphics chips aren't like what they used to be 7 years ago where the fastest cards were barely breaking 150w TDP's, these days they are starting to smash the 300w barrier.
And the launch Xbox 360's power brick could output at most 175w, then they need to factor in capacitor aging so it's rated at more than it needs to.

If they do go with a Radeon 8870 and an 8-core CPU then I would expect a power brick twice as big as the launch Xbox's, the console will be loud and hot, putting a console in an enclosed space with limited air flow is going to be asking for high failure rates.

I personally beleive they will go with something more conservative and lower power, maybe something along the lines of a Radeon 7770/8770 class chip which is still respectible and craps all over the current GPU's in the Xbox and PS3 no contest.

As for those who are saying that an 8 core chip will be: OMGWTFBBQ EPIC PERFORMANCE! Is simply false.
You could have an 8 core Intel atom. It's still going to be slow as crap compared to a dual-core Ivy-Bridge processor.
It's not untill we get more information on the CPU that we can determine if it's going to be good or not.
On the bright side, at-least games might start using 8 threads on the PC giving my 12 threaded processor something to do for once. :)

And last as a comparison between Console vs PC graphics... A console can never match a PC. Like ever. You are stuck with a maximum resolution of only 1920x1080 for starters, most games end up being 1366x768 or lower with only 30fps.




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ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
Bladeforce said:
All that power (For a console) and all you are going to get are re hashes like Call of Duty 10 or Halo 13, it's starting to sound like a series of Jaws movies now, pretty dire


LOL, yes what are you looking forward, take away mario and zelda, and what do you have with wii u, no third party support and last gen graphics, atleast on the new xbox  we will get every single third party game with amazing graphics, not mention halo5, forza5 and gears of war 4 which will all be amazing games.

I do not agree with bladeforce, but your comment is probably even more ignorant than his and mostly based on opinions.


not really all signes point to wii u being a wii but with bad sales. i know mario and zelda are great but being stuck  with 7 year old tech is just nasty.

No one on this site thinks the PS4 and the 720 will be on par with the Wii U, we all know those consoles are going to be more powerful. 7 year old tech is not true at all, especially considering the Wii U specs are highly modified version of their retail counterparts and also highly optimized. You should learn a few things on here.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136756&page=1

i heard this from plenty of wii u fans, the fact is we have developers, like metro last light and even team ninja saying wii u is on par with current gen, that with the fact that almost everyt single port is inferior, but keep thinking the wii u has some secret hidden powers.

The reason Metro: Last Light didn't continue on the Wii U was because of lack of resources, not power. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=151372&page=1

Team Ninja only said the processor speed was "bad" which in all honesty it really is, but if you know even the minimal amount of tech you should know processor speed isn't everything.

Ports of the Wii U weren't even slightly optimize, developers pretty much only copy and paste the 360 and PS3 games to the Wii U, that could be either laziness, lack of resources (like in Metro's case) or just hurry up to make the launch deadline.



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osed125 said:

The reason Metro: Last Light didn't continue on the Wii U was because of lack of resources, not power.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=151372&page=1

Team Ninja only said the processor speed was "bad" which in all honesty it really is, but if you know even the minimal amount of tech you should know processor speed isn't everything.

Ports of the Wii U weren't even slightly optimize, developers pretty much only copy and paste the 360 and PS3 games to the Wii U, that could be either laziness, lack of resources (like in Metro's case) or just hurry up to make the launch deadline.

The Wii U is weak... there is no magical engineering to make a 50W hardware to have a CPU and GPU powerful enough to the new gen... it's around 50% better than the PS360.

Anyway the NextBox/PS4k is supposed to be a 200-250W hardware.



if true then i see a repeat of ps3 on launch...