I never got the argument that handhelds are not "consoles." If handhelds like DS and PSP are not consoles, what the hell are they?

Handhelds are not Home Consoles, they are Handheld Consoles. We talk about them differently because they are different. When talking about the price of apples nobody want to hear what oranges cost. Apples and oranges are both fruit and both taste really good, but they are different. The same goes for home and handheld gaming.

I like home consoles better, but o agree that handhelds are also consoles.

Home and handheld gaming is looking to merge in the future, all signs point to streamable handhelds or portable consoles.

The Nvidia handheld might be the 1st step. (Like the rise of laptops)

I agree. Just because DS is the king of everything that is great doesn't mean that we have to totally exclude it from the Home Console race, and that goes for all the Handhelds! (I'm just kidding... or am I?!)

Why would you want to call it a console¿¿¿¿ If you must you must feel handhelds are inferior to consoles or it would not matter to argue semantics.

Also, by your definition my phone, tablet, PC, Mac, or anything that plays games is a console.

Nôôôôôôôôô!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!!!!

Why would anyone want to stream a game from their own PC to their tiny handheld? It's not like someone else can play another game on the PC while you stream yours. Other than playing a game while on the toilet I see no practicle use for it.

As for streaming games to consoles like onlive its going to take a long LONG time before fast enough broadband makes it to the other half of the USA. Over half of the people of the USA live too far from fiber optic service to be able to stream full 1080p gameplay with no lag. As someone who lives just far enough outside of the broadband bubble I can tell you that I can't even stream youtube vids without preloading them or locking the quality to SD and still having to preload the vid. USA is spread too far apart to fix this over night, it's going to date decades an billions to upgrade the nation before streamable games will happen on the large scale. And that's just the USA.

Playing a game on the toilet is the #1 reason. Of course it's going to take a lot of time, but in the future it will happen.

(Though I see small developed countries like South Korea or Japan achieving something similar soon. The Internet speed on a phone there is crazy.)

Of course they are different, but they are both consoles. The problem lies in that there is a terminology divide because console is used as second hand for home consoles and this thread is a mockery of that verbal conundrum.