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kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Pretty good opening for Halo.

Lets see how it does over the next 12 Months. And the 12 Months after. And the 12 Months after.


You have to sell slowly to be successful?

Weird.

I'd have though 8m sold at near full price in a few months was far better than bundling, new editions and buidget price editions over 2 or 3 years... but thats just me and my logical business like brain for you.

I just bought Halo 4 for half price...

But you never know, it could sell -2m copies over the 12 months and 6m sales is probably only enough to make it very profitable, not stupidly profitable



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Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:


You have to sell slowly to be successful?

Weird.

I'd have though 8m sold at near full price in a few months was far better than bundling, new editions and buidget price editions over 2 or 3 years... but thats just me and my logical business like brain for you.

I never said anything about success. This is comparing sales of the 2 games, not the success. GT5 has sold extremely well over the course of 2011 and 2012. Its had tremendous legs, even when using VGChartz vastly undertracked numbers.

Im curious if Halo 4 can match GT5 for legs despite opening with far greater numbers.

http://www.vgchartz.com/tools/game_comparison.php?reg=Global&ending=Cumulative&game[]=Halo+4+%28X360%29+[51758]&game[]=Gran+Turismo+5+%28PS3%29+[7678]&game[]=Halo+3+%28X360%29+[6964]&game[]=

Halo 3 seemed to match the legs of GT5 even with a higher opening.



Tease.

dsgrue3 said:
JayWood2010 said:

No I'm not comparing anything.  Just saying your statement makes no sense.  Sales2099's does.  You are talking about GT5 and legs but completely disregarding that Halo 3 sold well for a long time.  Halo 4 could do the same thing.  This hasn't even been with bundles yet, and you also ignore that.  What happens if GT6 gets announced?  We don't know what will happen then do we?  If I wanted to make a comparison I would make a new thread for it.  What I've learned from this thread is that people are childish.  But yes say I'm a trip for using logic while your sig alone is not logical.

I quoted myself, not you. See below.

sales2099 said:
But hey carry on. Lets celebrate KZ 3 selling more then ODST, despite the IP selling less then Halo, which was my point the entire time.

 


Let's celebrate Forza 4 and Horizon outselling GT5 in 2012, despite the IP selling less than GT, which was my point the entire time.

 

You didnt address the 3 points that make your parody make less sense then mine lol

Well if you say for this generation only, Forza actually won...unless you count the PSP game but thats not on PS3, either way my grand point is that Forza is taking the crown for 2011 and 2012, making it the most relevant sim franchise in the last 2 years, taking advantage of GT5s slow release schedule. Its capitalizing on the competitions slow release schedule and seizing control with numbers.

In the end, my sig tries to convey that even a god can bleed. In regards to the OP, GTs best days are behind it.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

dsgrue3 said:
JayWood2010 said:

No I'm not comparing anything.  Just saying your statement makes no sense.  Sales2099's does.  You are talking about GT5 and legs but completely disregarding that Halo 3 sold well for a long time.  Halo 4 could do the same thing.  This hasn't even been with bundles yet, and you also ignore that.  What happens if GT6 gets announced?  We don't know what will happen then do we?  If I wanted to make a comparison I would make a new thread for it.  What I've learned from this thread is that people are childish.  But yes say I'm a trip for using logic while your sig alone is not logical.

I quoted myself, not you. See below.

sales2099 said:
But hey carry on. Lets celebrate KZ 3 selling more then ODST, despite the IP selling less then Halo, which was my point the entire time.

 


Let's celebrate Forza 4 and Horizon outselling GT5 in 2012, despite the IP selling less than GT, which was my point the entire time.

 


Does it look like Im celebrating?  No, I was simply explaining to you what his sig meant.  His makes sense, yours does not.  If you compare time frames with Forza vs GT once again they sell very similar.  You compare Killzone next to Halo and halo dominates.  Stop quoting me now.  I explained why yours makes no sense and what his meant.  If you want me to say GT5 is bigger than Forza then I will say yes it is. Is that what you want to hear?  




       

dsgrue3 said:
JayWood2010 said:

No I'm not comparing anything.  Just saying your statement makes no sense.  Sales2099's does.  You are talking about GT5 and legs but completely disregarding that Halo 3 sold well for a long time.  Halo 4 could do the same thing.  This hasn't even been with bundles yet, and you also ignore that.  What happens if GT6 gets announced?  We don't know what will happen then do we?  If I wanted to make a comparison I would make a new thread for it.  What I've learned from this thread is that people are childish.  But yes say I'm a trip for using logic while your sig alone is not logical.

I quoted myself, not you. See below.

sales2099 said:
But hey carry on. Lets celebrate KZ 3 selling more then ODST, despite the IP selling less then Halo, which was my point the entire time.

 


Let's celebrate Forza 4 and Horizon outselling GT5 in 2012, despite the IP selling less than GT, which was my point the entire time.

 


Hate it all you want but Forza Horizon is already a success it has sold 1.01 million copies on a console that sold 73.8 million units.  Compare that to Polyphony Digitals attempt at a spin off franchise Tourist Trophy which only sold 0.68 million copies on a cosole that sold over 155 million units.



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SpartenOmega117 said:
Lets face it GT5 fell short of expectations and overall playstation is not as popular as it once was. Also im pretty sure companies prefer games to be more front loaded rather than it have longevity.


Fell short of expectations? It's the best selling gran turismo ever in Europe and its probably going to sell 11million in its lifetime. What were your expectations!?



JayWood2010 said:
Does it look like Im celebrating?  No, I was simply explaining to you what his sig meant.  His makes sense, yours does not.  If you compare time frames with Forza vs GT once again they sell very similar.  You compare Killzone next to Halo and halo dominates.  Stop quoting me now.  I explained why yours makes no sense and what his meant.  If you want me to say GT5 is bigger than Forza then I will say yes it is. Is that what you want to hear?  

HIs sig does not make sense. Again, see below.

sales2099 said:

You didnt address the 3 points that make your parody make less sense then mine lol

Well if you say for this generation only, Forza actually won...unless you count the PSP game but thats not on PS3, either way my grand point is that Forza is taking the crown for 2011 and 2012, making it the most relevant sim franchise in the last 2 years, taking advantage of GT5s slow release schedule. Its capitalizing on the competitions slow release schedule and seizing control with numbers.

In the end, my sig tries to convey that even a god can bleed. In regards to the OP, GTs best days are behind it.

Your sig makes less nonsense than mine? Okay? Fine, but it's still nonsense.

Forza 4 + Horizon LTD: 4.77m

GT5  LTD: 8.62m

There is no comparison here. 



7 million is pretty good.



dsgrue3 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Does it look like Im celebrating?  No, I was simply explaining to you what his sig meant.  His makes sense, yours does not.  If you compare time frames with Forza vs GT once again they sell very similar.  You compare Killzone next to Halo and halo dominates.  Stop quoting me now.  I explained why yours makes no sense and what his meant.  If you want me to say GT5 is bigger than Forza then I will say yes it is. Is that what you want to hear?  

HIs sig does not make sense. Again, see below.

sales2099 said:

You didnt address the 3 points that make your parody make less sense then mine lol

Well if you say for this generation only, Forza actually won...unless you count the PSP game but thats not on PS3, either way my grand point is that Forza is taking the crown for 2011 and 2012, making it the most relevant sim franchise in the last 2 years, taking advantage of GT5s slow release schedule. Its capitalizing on the competitions slow release schedule and seizing control with numbers.

In the end, my sig tries to convey that even a god can bleed. In regards to the OP, GTs best days are behind it.

 

Your sig makes less nonsense than mine? Okay? Fine, but it's still nonsense.

Forza 4 + Horizon LTD: 4.77m

GT5  LTD: 8.62m

There is no comparison here. 

 


Yet you quote me again, Stop quoting me.  I was simply explaining what his meant.  Now leave me out of it.




       

djs said:
BenVTrigger said:
djs said:
Great sales for an exclusive game, but pretty average sales for an fps.


Wait.........what?

Halo 4 is now the fastest selling FPS ever not called COD.  How on earth is that average for an FPS?  In fact please tell me how many FPS sell 7 million in their LIFETIME on one console besides Call of Duty.

I assume you consider COD sales are from another planet. I won't exclude COD at all.

If you want to judge how good Halo 4 is selling you should put it against the best in the business, which is an fps.

Consider GT5 in an era when a multiplat racer sells tons of millions each year!

Of course COD sells more its the top dog in FPS.

My point was you said Halos sales are average......which is complelty wrong.  Its the second best in the industry