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VGKing on 02 January 2013
bouzane said:
VGKing said:
bouzane said:
@VGKing

So what if the smartphones and tablets would surpass the Vita faster? Once again, Sony should not try to compete with these devices because they are not capable of doing so, especially with a device that is in another segment of the market. Also the Vita, as a result of having weaker hardware, would be more affordable, a major factor for dedicated gaming systems. Who cares if the Vita wouldn't be capable of playing Uncharted, that's what the PS3 is for. Why add the PS3 as a competing product in addition to tablets, smartphones and finally the 3DS. Why not just focus on properly competing with the 3DS? Wouldn't that be better than failing at everything?

That's just it though, they can't go head to head with the 3DS either....Sony doesn't own the IP to any popular IP such as Pokemon or Mario. They could try and create something especially for Vita but that is a huge gamble. At least with games like Uncharted Golden Abyss....they know that will sell decently. Look at the best selling games on Vita...they are all console-style games.


and the best selling Vita games are still doing terribly, it is a strategic failure. We can see that their current approach simply does not work. If Sony does not have the IPs to compete with the 3DS then they should have invested their money into the appropriate game development, not hardware that increases costs and scares away customers and developers.

Their approach doesn't work because their approach is a long term one and its obvious they aren't aiming to outsell the 3DS.



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haxxiy on 02 January 2013

Why would they release consoles with games who look worse than what they can currently offer?



 

 

 

 

 

bouzane on 02 January 2013
VGKing said:
bouzane said:
VGKing said:
bouzane said:
@VGKing

So what if the smartphones and tablets would surpass the Vita faster? Once again, Sony should not try to compete with these devices because they are not capable of doing so, especially with a device that is in another segment of the market. Also the Vita, as a result of having weaker hardware, would be more affordable, a major factor for dedicated gaming systems. Who cares if the Vita wouldn't be capable of playing Uncharted, that's what the PS3 is for. Why add the PS3 as a competing product in addition to tablets, smartphones and finally the 3DS. Why not just focus on properly competing with the 3DS? Wouldn't that be better than failing at everything?

That's just it though, they can't go head to head with the 3DS either....Sony doesn't own the IP to any popular IP such as Pokemon or Mario. They could try and create something especially for Vita but that is a huge gamble. At least with games like Uncharted Golden Abyss....they know that will sell decently. Look at the best selling games on Vita...they are all console-style games.


and the best selling Vita games are still doing terribly, it is a strategic failure. We can see that their current approach simply does not work. If Sony does not have the IPs to compete with the 3DS then they should have invested their money into the appropriate game development, not hardware that increases costs and scares away customers and developers.

Their approach doesn't work because their approach is a long term one and its obvious they aren't aiming to outsell the 3DS.


Where did I say that I expected the Vita to outsell the 3DS? Even with a long term approach the Vita is doing terribly, it shouldn't be tracking this far behind where the PSP was. Again, Sony should be more aggressive with the Vita in order to attract more consumers and third party support. At this rate, the Vita won't be half as successful as the PSP.



psrock on 02 January 2013

They can and will bring very powerful console next gen as they have always done.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 02 January 2013

if they were going to do that, then they may as well not bother releasing new consoles.



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VGKing on 03 January 2013
bouzane said:
VGKing said:
bouzane said:
VGKing said:
bouzane said:
@VGKing

So what if the smartphones and tablets would surpass the Vita faster? Once again, Sony should not try to compete with these devices because they are not capable of doing so, especially with a device that is in another segment of the market. Also the Vita, as a result of having weaker hardware, would be more affordable, a major factor for dedicated gaming systems. Who cares if the Vita wouldn't be capable of playing Uncharted, that's what the PS3 is for. Why add the PS3 as a competing product in addition to tablets, smartphones and finally the 3DS. Why not just focus on properly competing with the 3DS? Wouldn't that be better than failing at everything?

That's just it though, they can't go head to head with the 3DS either....Sony doesn't own the IP to any popular IP such as Pokemon or Mario. They could try and create something especially for Vita but that is a huge gamble. At least with games like Uncharted Golden Abyss....they know that will sell decently. Look at the best selling games on Vita...they are all console-style games.


and the best selling Vita games are still doing terribly, it is a strategic failure. We can see that their current approach simply does not work. If Sony does not have the IPs to compete with the 3DS then they should have invested their money into the appropriate game development, not hardware that increases costs and scares away customers and developers.

Their approach doesn't work because their approach is a long term one and its obvious they aren't aiming to outsell the 3DS.


Where did I say that I expected the Vita to outsell the 3DS? Even with a long term approach the Vita is doing terribly, it shouldn't be tracking this far behind where the PSP was. Again, Sony should be more aggressive with the Vita in order to attract more consumers and third party support. At this rate, the Vita won't be half as successful as the PSP.

If price is the issue, they can't really start being aggresive until they cut the price.
It's more than just a price issue though. I'm not surprised it tracking behind the PSP. The market has changed a lot since then and unlike Nintendo, Sony won't do an $80 price cut 6 months after launch. There isn't much Sony can do but try and secure some portable exclusivity for big name games like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty along with some great 1st party support.



IamAwsome on 03 January 2013
haxxiy said:
Why would they release consoles with games who look worse than what they can currently offer?

Ummm, the Wii U is more powerful than the PS3.



Soundwave on 03 January 2013

What would be the point? If they're going to do that, might as well just stick with the 360/PS3, which already have established userbases of 70+ million (good luck catching that, Nintendo).



burninmylight on 03 January 2013
osed125 said:

It will cause an outrage and millions of internet suicides....and some real ones...

I personally think this isn't a bad idea, mostly because development cost have gone way too expensive, and I'm sure the cost will be double (Crytek said this, although I can't find the article), if that's the case we pretty much are only going to get Call of Duty, Fifa, AC, etc, and very rarely are we going to see a new IP (in terms of AAA games of course), and that's something I don't want to happen. We will probably reach a point when selling 1m units won't be enough in order to break even (I'm sure that's probably happening right now) and if that's the case a lot of companies will go out of business, only the big guys will remain.


See: Kingdoms of Amalur



osed125 on 04 January 2013
burninmylight said:
osed125 said:

It will cause an outrage and millions of internet suicides....and some real ones...

I personally think this isn't a bad idea, mostly because development cost have gone way too expensive, and I'm sure the cost will be double (Crytek said this, although I can't find the article), if that's the case we pretty much are only going to get Call of Duty, Fifa, AC, etc, and very rarely are we going to see a new IP (in terms of AAA games of course), and that's something I don't want to happen. We will probably reach a point when selling 1m units won't be enough in order to break even (I'm sure that's probably happening right now) and if that's the case a lot of companies will go out of business, only the big guys will remain.


See: Kingdoms of Amalur

If that's happening with a game that have sold 1.54m units (according to VGC) I can't imagine how next gen games will have to sell in order to be successful.



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