Because plenty of Sony fans are upset at Xbox trolls that flaunted the 360 selling more than the PS3 despite releasing a year earlier?

What I'm saying is we are now guessing how much the PS2 has sold.  nobody really knows exactly.  What we know is it has sold somewhere between 150-160m consoles and anybody that throws out an exact number is full of it.

It's just console supporters making arbitrary goals to aim for. 
In reality, what should be considered is that with launch dates adjusted, the PS3 has considently sold more then the 360. I personally put that down to the bluray player on it. 
Other then saying that bluray was therefore a good investment by Sony, can anything else be drawn from sales? Probably one last thing. Without a new media format, how will the next playstation sell? In fact, how well will any of them sell? When the 360 was released, bluray was still fighting HD-DVD, and when the PS2 and xbox were released, VHS were still in circulation. Now with bluray being a widely adopted and embedded successor to DVD, as well as the growing trend of streaming media, will the next consoles be able to purposefully advertise an optical media without being ignored or laughed at? The next consoles are stepping into very murky waters indeed. 

I don't know why Jay is even saying that.  We actually do have hard numbers.  At the end of FY2011 (March 2012), Sony announced that 155.1M PS2s had been shipped.  We also know that from Sony's wording in their last quarter, the PS3 was down YOY.  So, the PS2 must have shipped at least 1M for that to be true.  So, the PS2, has shipped at least 156.1M, as of Sept. 2012.  Or should I not be talking about this on a sales site? 

Edit:  Damn, I used logic to figure that out.  To Jay, that means I'm full of it.  Oh, well. 

Read bolded. 

Funny, but true. 

3m off? 13.2m for the year... Sony already shipped 8.0m at 4th November... more 5.2 million for November and December... I think I'm in the right path... I can be wrong by 500k but more than that seems unlikely.

For 2013 the PS3 will ship more than 12 million... that's common sense... and the others years I think I'm off at maximum 1 million per year.... so 110 million.

To be truthful I always knew the PS3 would surpass the 360. Although I don't think it will be in 2013. 

It wasn't just "swept under the rug". It cost them a lot, and hurt the Xbox brand. Not to mention, many people switched to the PS3 after their Xbox got the RROD. I know so many people who purchased a PS3 because their Xbox got RROD and were very angry with Microsoft. 

I never said the PS brand was weaker than Xbox, I said its much weaker than it was 7 years ago. If we are comparing it to Xbox, then I would say that the PS brand is still bigger. 

I don't know... like some already said, it doesn't matter much at this point but Sony fans that believed hard about this for years will at last see their wet dream come true, good thing if it helps them sleep better.

To me it's a surprise it took this long. If you analyse correctly, Sony has been hit hard this gen. Being number two doesn't change a thing when next gen comes. Look where they were last gen. They completely dominated both Ninty and MS but this gen...

Their hardware featured way more that the competition.
They had free internet multiplayer access.
They had Blue Ray.
They made a lot of incredible exclusives.
They started with the biggest brand in video gaming.

Their big competitor (360) didn't have it easy at all.

RROD that tarnished 360's image for at least 3 years which, deny it all you like, resulted in people not buying 360 because of this.
Sold next to nothing in Japan. Proof is that if you remove 360's Japanese sells, it's still number two right now.
Didn't have as much flamboyant exclusives as Sony.
You had to pay to play online.
Didn't have a blueray player.
Didn't have a wireless router.

So yeah, in the end, they were hit pretty bad, they had everything to beat the competition but failed to. Next gen will be interresting.