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thismeintiel said:
MoHasanie said:
thismeintiel said:
Also, I think MS fans don't like this for two reasons. One, it means MS couldn't beat Sony, even with all the horrible mistakes Sony made early on (pricing, 1-1 1/2 years late, and no real SW support for a year or two). And two, it shows just how strong the PS brand is. That they could have so much working against them at the start and still place 2nd and end up selling ~90M. This is only going to help them next gen, especially in EU and Japan. They will also have a console that is relatively the same price as the NeXbox and will be coming out within 6 months of the NeXbox's launch.


Well of course MS fanboys will be a little dissapointed but they've been expecting it to happen for years since PS fanboys talk about it all the time. 

And you're acting like Microsoft made no mistakes. RROD was a gigantic mistake, and probably the biggest one made by any console maker this generation. 

The PS brand is strong, and was VERY strong when the PS3 launched, and that has helped the PS3 a lot. But now, the PS brand is much weaker then what it was 7 years ago. 

You really shouldn't just throw around the word fanboy like that.  Anyway, yes, RROD was a big mistake.  However, luckily for MS, other than the 1B it cost them in repairs, it was mostly swept under the rug.  I'm guessing that was helped by the fact that their biggest market was America.  There were countless posts and videos of people saying "No big deal, they fix it for free" or "That's what you get for buying the low-end model" or, and this is my favorite, "Just buy a new one." Don't get me wrong, they won't be able to survive that twice.  But, I suppose the late launch of the PS3, as well as it costing $200 more, allowed the majority of people to ignore RROD. 

Also, the PS brand is just as strong.  Yes, the PS3 will only come close to matching the PS1's numbers, but that was mostly due to its rocky start.  I imagine next gen we should see the PS brand in full spirits, again. 


It wasn't just "swept under the rug". It cost them a lot, and hurt the Xbox brand. Not to mention, many people switched to the PS3 after their Xbox got the RROD. I know so many people who purchased a PS3 because their Xbox got RROD and were very angry with Microsoft. 

I never said the PS brand was weaker than Xbox, I said its much weaker than it was 7 years ago. If we are comparing it to Xbox, then I would say that the PS brand is still bigger. 



    

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