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S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2012
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk out of his ass a lot.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have them hold their ankles?


I'll make a bet with you right now that the Wii U will be outshined. 

what is outshined? the cover of the console? what does it mean to you?

I already gave you my definition. Your statement is vague in fact nonsensical.


Nonsensical? The PS3 and 360 are going to have the most stacked two quarters out of any first half of the year. Unless the Wii U can attain most of those multiplats it will slow the hardcore sales down.



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Torillian on 31 December 2012

Your statement that you can't judge a console in a few weeks only focuses on the library, there are certainly things intrinsic in the hardware that you can judge in that time frame. If you'd like some examples, could just be that they got the console and hated the OS load times so much they they just couldn't stand it. Or maybe the controller doesn't feel right. There are actually some reasons to return a console before a few months other than "oh they're scalpers or idiots" replies you're getting for the most part.



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GameAnalyser on 31 December 2012
cunger said:
zippy said:

Pesmerga7551 said:
Come on man, it's easy to see why. The WiiU isn't really next gen. Technically it's but it's inferior to the 360 and PS3. Why you ask, because those markets are already much bigger. And public perception is that it's competing with the PS3 and 360. This is VERY bad for Nintendo if you ask me. So people don't get it. Nintendo doesn't have any games that can't run on a PS3, or 360. You have exclusives for the sake of exclusives, but nothing that is cutting edge. When the PS4 and 720 launch, you know some of the launch titles won't be able to run on the WiiU.

I honestly think it's to late to the market for what market they are pushing it into. Far too little in graphical power leap over the last gen. When you look at it, why buy a WiiU now when the PS4 and 720, the "hardcore" HD next generation systems are coming out in less than a year? I say it's inferior because it's what Nintendo made it. They released it knowing it would be inferior to the next generation machines. But just like last gen, they are gambling with another fad controller. But, lightning won't strike twice IMO. Just like the Vita, but least the WiiU is still selling decently.. They just don't get their market. Smartphones killed the Vita. And with the WiiU, it's missing features that players find very important. And this is supposed to be "next gen". How can it be when it can't do what its competition is doing with last generation tech?

I officially don't get Nintendo at all. I think they've lost it.

PS: Playing with the stock controller is horrible. I can see people hating it honestly, pro controller is the only way. But then if you go that route, you hit all the other issues. The missing features, and terrible library. Not good at all for adults, have to admit that much..

Zippy-When complaints were made about the Vita, people said give it at least a year on the market before making judgement. It seems to me that people are judging WiiU after several weeks on the market..is that fair?


The console market isn't about graphics. It's not about what can or can't be run. Why does the most powerfull system never finish 1st in a console generation???   You're always going to have people who adopt early and realize it was mostly emotion and then returning it to buy games for older systems instead or whatever their reason is. There were so many reports of people returning 3ds's as well but that system has done nothing be gain momentum even after a much more powerfull competitor hit the market.

More powerfull competitors don't effect Nintendo very much for several years. High end is for a small number of people. Once those more powerfull systems are cheap and the graphics start to push the systems then the Nintendo audience starts to take notice. But we're talking 4 or 5 years after the xbox 360 release last gen.  This time around it will be at the end of the Nintendo cycle rather than 4 years in like Wii. Nintendo is one year ahead of more powerfull systems this gen rather than one year behind like last gen.

'High end is for a small number of people.' Wii U is high end currently. Wii would suffice. But sadly Ps360 has been the choice.



EdHieron on 31 December 2012
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
Gamegears said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamegears said:
Technically an easy screw up for Sony/Microsoft to make is releasing a next gen system at a high price point.. they do that.. and combined with the fact that by Next Year WiiU will most likely see some great games and really be put out there on display... WiiU might get another easy win in total sells.. that being said.. I think people are trading them in.. getting what they really want.. and some might pick them up later.. I


Everyone knows more powerful tech is expected from next gen consoles. The Wii U's 2013 so far doesn't look anywhere near to the year of the PS3 or 360 itself, so how could it hope to outshine the next gen consoles from those guys? Nintendo will shoot for the casuals the second they see 2013's sales for the newest console(s), mark my words.


Well honestly if last gen and to a point this gen proved one thing more advanced tech does not matter until later in the cycle when prices go down. If it truly did.. I think Vita and 3DS numbers would look quite different.. don't you?? With that being said a couple of things to consider..

 

1. Yes the 360/PS3 has a good year coming.. of course that is a double bladed sword.. because it may actually hurt the launch of the PS4/720. Why should you pay for a new system when you have one that is still having good games released.. plus most launchg titles.. are not that impressive.. anymore.. if you want gamers to shell out the bucks.. you better have more then 1 good game.. 

 

2. Everyone also knows the 360/PS3 is ending it's life cycle soon.. and more games may not be coming.. and the ones that are will probably be ports.. alot of people will want a system that has some games and will have games made for it in the future.. with the WiiU they will have this.. plus.. like I said.. it is more then likely.. the initial price sticker on the 720/PS4 is going to be so much.. that it will just make the WiiU sell that much better.. and like I said.. expect WiiU to get some really good titles next year.. this will also help.. 

 

I am sorry.. I think the PS4/720 will do fine.. but I really don't see them appealing or selling that well if the companies charge 500-600 dollars for their systems.. except to the few really hardcore gamers.. that must have the newest systems on launch.. and the fans of respective companies.. but this is all future speak.. who knows.. the companies may launch at a 400.00 price point at which they could do well... I think... 

yup. People in forums asking," why get Wii-U when PS3 and Xbox 360 is cheaper?"

I ask why even get PS4 and xbox 720 then?


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk a lot out of his ass.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have Durango and Orbis hold their ankles?


Didn't happen with Gamecube against the PS2 and Original Xbox and it was more technologically powerful re:  its competitors than the Wii and Wii U ever hoped to be.  All the big time 3rd party developers are itching to get their games on PS4 and 720.  Sure it will get its fair share of ports, but the Big Time Next Gen games much as with PS3 and 360 this gen are going to have their finest iterations on Orbis and Durango.  In the long run Wii U is domed.



EdHieron on 31 December 2012
biggamejames79 said:
Wii U launch is much more successful than the ps3 and 360 launches. If it makes anyone feel better to ignore this fact and pretend otherwise go right ahead.

Only because the 360 had a shortage which wasn't cleared up 'til Spring of '06.



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AstroMaSSi on 31 December 2012

If someone is so fool to trade a new console after 1 month we discuss about mindless decisions. To buy and to sell. Or maybe they received something they simply don't want, who knows?



AstroMaSSi rules

KeptoKnight on 31 December 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
Gamegears said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamegears said:
Technically an easy screw up for Sony/Microsoft to make is releasing a next gen system at a high price point.. they do that.. and combined with the fact that by Next Year WiiU will most likely see some great games and really be put out there on display... WiiU might get another easy win in total sells.. that being said.. I think people are trading them in.. getting what they really want.. and some might pick them up later.. I


Everyone knows more powerful tech is expected from next gen consoles. The Wii U's 2013 so far doesn't look anywhere near to the year of the PS3 or 360 itself, so how could it hope to outshine the next gen consoles from those guys? Nintendo will shoot for the casuals the second they see 2013's sales for the newest console(s), mark my words.


Well honestly if last gen and to a point this gen proved one thing more advanced tech does not matter until later in the cycle when prices go down. If it truly did.. I think Vita and 3DS numbers would look quite different.. don't you?? With that being said a couple of things to consider..

 

1. Yes the 360/PS3 has a good year coming.. of course that is a double bladed sword.. because it may actually hurt the launch of the PS4/720. Why should you pay for a new system when you have one that is still having good games released.. plus most launchg titles.. are not that impressive.. anymore.. if you want gamers to shell out the bucks.. you better have more then 1 good game.. 

 

2. Everyone also knows the 360/PS3 is ending it's life cycle soon.. and more games may not be coming.. and the ones that are will probably be ports.. alot of people will want a system that has some games and will have games made for it in the future.. with the WiiU they will have this.. plus.. like I said.. it is more then likely.. the initial price sticker on the 720/PS4 is going to be so much.. that it will just make the WiiU sell that much better.. and like I said.. expect WiiU to get some really good titles next year.. this will also help.. 

 

I am sorry.. I think the PS4/720 will do fine.. but I really don't see them appealing or selling that well if the companies charge 500-600 dollars for their systems.. except to the few really hardcore gamers.. that must have the newest systems on launch.. and the fans of respective companies.. but this is all future speak.. who knows.. the companies may launch at a 400.00 price point at which they could do well... I think... 

yup. People in forums asking," why get Wii-U when PS3 and Xbox 360 is cheaper?"

I ask why even get PS4 and xbox 720 then?


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk out of his ass a lot.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have them hold their ankles?


I'll make a bet with you right now that the Wii U will be outshined. 

what is outshined? the cover of the console? what does it mean to you?

I already gave you my definition. Your statement is vague in fact nonsensical.


Nonsensical? The PS3 and 360 are going to have the most stacked two quarters out of any first half of the year. Unless the Wii U can attain most of those multiplats it will slow the hardcore sales down.

Yes it is nonsensical. You still haven't provided what that "outshine" means.

Wii already beat them down. Wii-U is here to go against all odds as well as Orbis and Durango (software, hardware and profitability) when they arrive. Software sales alone is a humiliation.

**By the time Orbis and Durango arrives.....its all straight profit for the big N.



KeptoKnight on 01 January 2013
EdHieron said:
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
Gamegears said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamegears said:
Technically an easy screw up for Sony/Microsoft to make is releasing a next gen system at a high price point.. they do that.. and combined with the fact that by Next Year WiiU will most likely see some great games and really be put out there on display... WiiU might get another easy win in total sells.. that being said.. I think people are trading them in.. getting what they really want.. and some might pick them up later.. I


Everyone knows more powerful tech is expected from next gen consoles. The Wii U's 2013 so far doesn't look anywhere near to the year of the PS3 or 360 itself, so how could it hope to outshine the next gen consoles from those guys? Nintendo will shoot for the casuals the second they see 2013's sales for the newest console(s), mark my words.


Well honestly if last gen and to a point this gen proved one thing more advanced tech does not matter until later in the cycle when prices go down. If it truly did.. I think Vita and 3DS numbers would look quite different.. don't you?? With that being said a couple of things to consider..

 

1. Yes the 360/PS3 has a good year coming.. of course that is a double bladed sword.. because it may actually hurt the launch of the PS4/720. Why should you pay for a new system when you have one that is still having good games released.. plus most launchg titles.. are not that impressive.. anymore.. if you want gamers to shell out the bucks.. you better have more then 1 good game.. 

 

2. Everyone also knows the 360/PS3 is ending it's life cycle soon.. and more games may not be coming.. and the ones that are will probably be ports.. alot of people will want a system that has some games and will have games made for it in the future.. with the WiiU they will have this.. plus.. like I said.. it is more then likely.. the initial price sticker on the 720/PS4 is going to be so much.. that it will just make the WiiU sell that much better.. and like I said.. expect WiiU to get some really good titles next year.. this will also help.. 

 

I am sorry.. I think the PS4/720 will do fine.. but I really don't see them appealing or selling that well if the companies charge 500-600 dollars for their systems.. except to the few really hardcore gamers.. that must have the newest systems on launch.. and the fans of respective companies.. but this is all future speak.. who knows.. the companies may launch at a 400.00 price point at which they could do well... I think... 

yup. People in forums asking," why get Wii-U when PS3 and Xbox 360 is cheaper?"

I ask why even get PS4 and xbox 720 then?


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk a lot out of his ass.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have Durango and Orbis hold their ankles?


Didn't happen with Gamecube against the PS2 and Original Xbox and it was more technologically powerful re:  its competitors than the Wii and Wii U ever hoped to be.  All the big time 3rd party developers are itching to get their games on PS4 and 720.  Sure it will get its fair share of ports, but the Big Time Next Gen games much as with PS3 and 360 this gen are going to have their finest iterations on Orbis and Durango.  In the long run Wii U is domed.

and that does not mean it will happen with the Wii-U. Whole different generation, plan and delivery.



EdHieron on 01 January 2013
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:
Gamegears said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamegears said:
Technically an easy screw up for Sony/Microsoft to make is releasing a next gen system at a high price point.. they do that.. and combined with the fact that by Next Year WiiU will most likely see some great games and really be put out there on display... WiiU might get another easy win in total sells.. that being said.. I think people are trading them in.. getting what they really want.. and some might pick them up later.. I


Everyone knows more powerful tech is expected from next gen consoles. The Wii U's 2013 so far doesn't look anywhere near to the year of the PS3 or 360 itself, so how could it hope to outshine the next gen consoles from those guys? Nintendo will shoot for the casuals the second they see 2013's sales for the newest console(s), mark my words.


Well honestly if last gen and to a point this gen proved one thing more advanced tech does not matter until later in the cycle when prices go down. If it truly did.. I think Vita and 3DS numbers would look quite different.. don't you?? With that being said a couple of things to consider..

 

1. Yes the 360/PS3 has a good year coming.. of course that is a double bladed sword.. because it may actually hurt the launch of the PS4/720. Why should you pay for a new system when you have one that is still having good games released.. plus most launchg titles.. are not that impressive.. anymore.. if you want gamers to shell out the bucks.. you better have more then 1 good game.. 

 

2. Everyone also knows the 360/PS3 is ending it's life cycle soon.. and more games may not be coming.. and the ones that are will probably be ports.. alot of people will want a system that has some games and will have games made for it in the future.. with the WiiU they will have this.. plus.. like I said.. it is more then likely.. the initial price sticker on the 720/PS4 is going to be so much.. that it will just make the WiiU sell that much better.. and like I said.. expect WiiU to get some really good titles next year.. this will also help.. 

 

I am sorry.. I think the PS4/720 will do fine.. but I really don't see them appealing or selling that well if the companies charge 500-600 dollars for their systems.. except to the few really hardcore gamers.. that must have the newest systems on launch.. and the fans of respective companies.. but this is all future speak.. who knows.. the companies may launch at a 400.00 price point at which they could do well... I think... 

yup. People in forums asking," why get Wii-U when PS3 and Xbox 360 is cheaper?"

I ask why even get PS4 and xbox 720 then?


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk a lot out of his ass.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have Durango and Orbis hold their ankles?


Didn't happen with Gamecube against the PS2 and Original Xbox and it was more technologically powerful re:  its competitors than the Wii and Wii U ever hoped to be.  All the big time 3rd party developers are itching to get their games on PS4 and 720.  Sure it will get its fair share of ports, but the Big Time Next Gen games much as with PS3 and 360 this gen are going to have their finest iterations on Orbis and Durango.  In the long run Wii U is domed.

and that does not mean it will happen with the Wii-U. Whole different generation, plan and delivery.


Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.



KeptoKnight on 01 January 2013
EdHieron said:
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:
KeptoKnight said:

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk a lot out of his ass.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have Durango and Orbis hold their ankles?


Didn't happen with Gamecube against the PS2 and Original Xbox and it was more technologically powerful re:  its competitors than the Wii and Wii U ever hoped to be.  All the big time 3rd party developers are itching to get their games on PS4 and 720.  Sure it will get its fair share of ports, but the Big Time Next Gen games much as with PS3 and 360 this gen are going to have their finest iterations on Orbis and Durango.  In the long run Wii U is domed.

and that does not mean it will happen with the Wii-U. Whole different generation, plan and delivery.


Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.

o sweet Jesus....what a post.