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I agree joerc, I thnk vita will do the exact same thing ps3 did, minus the billions in losses of course lol.
It will take a while, but it will hit 60m with plenty of people kicking and screaming all the way to grandmas.



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theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

All I insinuated is that the Vita managed to keep up sales to past a point where Nintendo deemed it appropriate. I didn't insinuate that any console is better than another. Yours is a strawman argument..you are arguing a point I have not made, but insist on telling me what my own point is based on conjecture and hidden messages.

Wake up.

1I really don't get the point of the title then, nor the point of OP. And if you look at Kowen's graphs, it's pretty clear that the 3DS beat the Vita in sales even pre pricedrop, unless you're using the fake aligned launch trends.

2To each his own I guess.

3It's either this thread is pointless, or my conjecture is correct. Either way, I don't think you have a realistic  understanding of what success constitutes.

1. The point of the OP is exactly as it was written. To highlight a little silver lining on the Vita situation. "It isn't as dire as it seems". I mean, that was a line taken directly from the OP. Yes, yes, I understand from all the upstanding people in this thread that Vita took longer, and I know the graphs upon graphs upon graphs, but again, for the fourth time, try to look at it this way: The Vita has managed to hold on without a price drop to a point further than Nintendo allowed 3ds to go.


The main problem here is you used the wrong word. The Vita hasn't outlasted anything the 3DS has done. The Vita has survived. It's been comparable. It's lasted. There's a bunch of words to choose from, but you chose outlasted. By using that word, it skews your actual talking points because you've said the Vita has done better than the 3DS in at least one department, which it hasn't. A different title would have lowered the hostility in here I think.

Doing something 4 months later than something else isn't outlasting, it's holding on.



Veggie said:
theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

All I insinuated is that the Vita managed to keep up sales to past a point where Nintendo deemed it appropriate. I didn't insinuate that any console is better than another. Yours is a strawman argument..you are arguing a point I have not made, but insist on telling me what my own point is based on conjecture and hidden messages.

Wake up.

1I really don't get the point of the title then, nor the point of OP. And if you look at Kowen's graphs, it's pretty clear that the 3DS beat the Vita in sales even pre pricedrop, unless you're using the fake aligned launch trends.

2To each his own I guess.

3It's either this thread is pointless, or my conjecture is correct. Either way, I don't think you have a realistic  understanding of what success constitutes.

1. The point of the OP is exactly as it was written. To highlight a little silver lining on the Vita situation. "It isn't as dire as it seems". I mean, that was a line taken directly from the OP. Yes, yes, I understand from all the upstanding people in this thread that Vita took longer, and I know the graphs upon graphs upon graphs, but again, for the fourth time, try to look at it this way: The Vita has managed to hold on without a price drop to a point further than Nintendo allowed 3ds to go.


The main problem here is you used the wrong word. The Vita hasn't outlasted anything the 3DS has done. The Vita has survived. It's been comparable. It's lasted. There's a bunch of words to choose from, but you chose outlasted. By using that word, it skews your actual talking points because you've said the Vita has done better than the 3DS in at least one department, which it hasn't. A different title would have lowered the hostility in here I think.

Doing something 4 months later than something else isn't outlasting, it's holding on.

Yeah I totally see your point, but on the other hand, had I written survived, I'd feel as if I was being too subservient.

It just doesn't seem like that much of a trigger word. Sure, had some of the OP been written differently, or anti-Nintendo remarks been made subtly, then yes, I would agree....totally asking for it. From where I'm standing though, I don't see why I shouldn't address my fellow Vita fans by pulling out the white flags first. Don't you think it's a little cruel to expect that? Or am I looking at this the wrong way?

I feel like even when Vita hits 10m, or even if it passes a majority-agreed upon prediction of sales for FY2012, people will still retaliate because the OP dared to say that naysayers were wrong.

Do you understand what I'm saying?



kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

 

3.2 million 3ds' were sold at 250$ with no competition and 3.5 million Vitas were sold at 250+memory card, and some sold at 300+memory card when its main competitor dropped to 179$ upon release day. Don't you think there is some strength in that?


Can you show me how you worked this out please? It looks like a manipulated load of bollocks to be honest. 

The 3ds has never been behind the vita curve when you align launches. Never.

July 28, 2011 – Nintendo of America today announced plans to drop the suggested retail price of its portable Nintendo 3DS™ system to $169.99 in the United States, as new games based on some of the world's most beloved video game franchises head to the system. The new price, down from the suggested launch price of $249.99 and effective Aug. 12, makes an outstanding value even better and sets up a strong holiday season for the system.

so when was the Nintendo 3DS released?

in the US market the Nintendo 3DS released March 27, 2011

So The 3DS released in Japan from FEB 2011 to AUG 12 THE Price was $250.00 was it not? and from

Aug afterward's it was $169.99

So right now Sony's PSVita released in japan  December 17, 2011, and in the US February 22, 2012

How is that "manipulated load of bollocks "?

Sony has not dropped the official price of the PSVita  yet!, While Nintendo did infact drop the Price and announced the price drop 4 months after Nintendo released the 3DS in the United States. upto that time did Nintendo sell 3.5 million 3DS's @ $250.00?



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It looks like holding onto this price point is not a victory for Vita, but rather a failing strategy. Since its launch 1 year and 9 months ago, every 90 days the 3DS averages sales that are equal to the entire lifetime sales of the Vita.



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Damn read last 5pages this thread turned out to be a huge argument lmao!!! Oh well just wanted to say Vita start looking up next year! As of the 3DS it still hasn't even launched its killer app yet and signs point to maybe next year ( at least japan) (POKEMON GEN VI)



kowenicki said:

3.2 million 3ds' were sold at 250$ with no competition and 3.5 million Vitas were sold at 250+memory card, and some sold at 300+memory card when its main competitor dropped to 179$ upon release day. Don't you think there is some strength in that?


Can you show me how you worked this out please? It looks like a manipulated load of bollocks to be honest. 

The 3ds has never been behind the vita curve when you align launches. Never.

July 28, 2011 – Nintendo of America today announced plans to drop the suggested retail price of its portable Nintendo 3DS™ system to $169.99 in the United States, as new games based on some of the world's most beloved video game franchises head to the system. The new price, down from the suggested launch price of $249.99 and effective Aug. 12, makes an outstanding value even better and sets up a strong holiday season for the system.

so when was the Nintendo 3DS released?

in the US market the Nintendo 3DS released March 27, 2011

So The 3DS released in Japan from FEB 2011 to AUG 12 THE Price was $250.00 was it not? and from

Aug afterward's it was $169.99

So right now Sony's PSVita released in japan  December 17, 2011, and in the US February 22, 2012

How is that "manipulated load of bollocks "?

I'm talking global sales with a local aligned launch. Go look at my thread then come back and apologise.

So Sorry, I was talking about the fact that you called what he stated was 

"""manipulated load of bollocks """

you did not imply that, when you called his claim 

what he stated was from the time Nintendo put out the 3DS to the time it cut the price Nintendo have sold prior to the cut @ $250.00 and that Nintendo cut it's price for the 3ds before Sony has cut the PSVita. which is 100% correct. calling it "outlasting"  and that people in this thread  is telling him instead of choosing that word to have used another  word for it seem's some people here may have some  standards set for one group of people on here another set for one selective group. ring a bell?

just like calling a certain group of gamer's a cult?

yea..yea..i know if the shoe fit's..but that's the thing, everyone fit's into a certain type on here its some are way more vocal about it.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Jumpin said:
It looks like holding onto this price point is not a victory for Vita, but rather a failing strategy. Since its launch 1 year and 9 months ago, every 90 days the 3DS averages sales that are equal to the entire lifetime sales of the Vita.

"It looks like holding onto this price point is not a victory for Vita, but rather a failing strategy."

that's the thing though is the consumer retail chain stop selling the PSVita through the chain yet?

until Sony gets the word that the retail chain will not carry the PSVita anymore, than it's not a failing stratagy.

The Civic Sell more unit's than the Lincoln Town Car!

but that does not take away from the point of there is still sales.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

About this thread, its all good and all but i think most people are referring to is that vita took almost a year of what 3ds did in 5 months?

Correct me if im wrong but we are talking about pre'price cuts



tbone51 said:
About this thread, its all good and all but i think most people are referring to is that vita took almost a year of what 3ds did in 5 months?

Correct me if im wrong but we are talking about pre'price cuts

what many i think are upset about is how the op pointed out that Sony's PSVita has outlasted Nintendo's 3DS in the point of not getting a Price cut in order to have this thread of Sony "outlasting" anything Nintendo!..lol

when you could have put that Microsoft has had  the xbox360 has sold better without as many price cuts as Sony have had to do to spur sales of their systems! in the same time frame..lol



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.