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Do Nintendo and Microsoft fans like each other?

Yes 137 48.41%
 
No 78 27.56%
 
I'm gonna fuck with your poll so hard! 68 24.03%
 
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KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


Incorrect, if the PSX didnt exist Nintendo would've STILL had a stranglehold on third parties and Sega still would've struggled. Sega failed of their own issues, not because of the competition. Sega Japans biggest offense was not allowing a larger entity to buy them out and fund their hardware development. Sony didnt take third parties from Sega....they ended Nintendos dominant hold on third party. 32X was a mistake, the Saturn was a failure and the Dreamcast though one of my favorite consoles was sadly doomed to fail. It was just one mistake after another. The only bright spot Sega has outside of the objective greatness that was the Dreamcast was the Genesis which was their only majorly successful console.

P.S.

You're correct about Sega jumping the gun and launching the Saturn on short notice to limited retailers to beat Sony to the market though.

Bold part is where you are fundementally wrong. Nintendo only had the stranglehold on third parties during the NES days. Sega had great third party support during the 16-bit days, and that support would have likely increased if Saturn was the only viable CD based console.


No, Nintendo built relationships with third parties during the NES days, they gained dominance during the SNES days. If the Sony hadn't come all of the top JRPG's would've gone to Nintendo instead of people choosing Sony's format over the old cartridge, even though it was 64 bit. This is why Final Fantasy, Metal Gear and a lot of Capcom titles went to Sony instead of the 64. Nintendo always held down Segas third party and half of it they did themselves.

So all the third party games on the Megadrive doesn't exist?

You're not being realistic here.


Sega had third party, but Nintendo had way more. Sega used celebrity campaigns in their games to level the playing field. IE: Michael Jackson, Joe Montana, etc.



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Sony fans tend to ignore all facts and figures. Or only use them when it suits them.

Nintendo fans Ive never really argued with.

Actually I used to be a bigger Nintendo fan than any on here.

When I was 9 or 10 I used to cut out from all my Nintendo magazines all the characters and screenshots and literally stick them all over my room. By 12 you could no longer see any paint. My room was covered in a 2 year collage of Nintendo. I won a copy of Super Mario 64 for my picture I sent into Official Nintendo Magazine back in the day.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


Sega had third party, but Nintendo had way more. Sega used celebrity campaigns in their games to level the playing field. IE: Michael Jackson, Joe Montana, etc.

You don't need to lecture me about Sega history, I know exactly how the 16-bit generation played out. Sega used celebrity names in games before Sonic the Hedgehog rocketed the system. They didn't continue doing that through the entire generation (som third party games like Pete Sampras tennis did though), and they didn't need to compensate after the Megadrive had become a viable platform. Due to the cartridges of the N64, it is very likely that even more third party games would have migrated to Saturn.



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Turkish said:
Muffin31190 said:
Lets not forget that if it wasnt for nintendo the playstation wouldnt have been created .... (gasp) IT'S NINTENDO THAT STARTED IT ALL

FUUUUUUUU


As if Nintendo was the first console ever LOL! And if it wasn't for PS1/PS2 your games would still be on cartridges instead of discs.

Historically, you know that this is incorrect right? Rather, had it not been for the PS1, Nintendo would have been on disks much sooner.



KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


Sega had third party, but Nintendo had way more. Sega used celebrity campaigns in their games to level the playing field. IE: Michael Jackson, Joe Montana, etc.

You don't need to lecture me about Sega history, I know exactly how the 16-bit generation played out. Sega used celebrity names in games before Sonic the Hedgehog rocketed the system. They didn't continue doing that through the entire generation (som third party games like Pete Sampras tennis did though), and they didn't need to compensate after the Megadrive had become a viable platform. Due to the cartridges of the N64, it is very likely that even more third party games would have migrated to Saturn.


They weren't going to go to Sega...I really don't know where you're getting this. Nintendo was who they were slated to have those games for before Sony changed the dev plans. This is going in circles because you cant deal with the reality that third party devs were on better terms with Nintendo and gained new favor with Sony in ways never Sega could never measured up to. Sega had awesome first party so thats pretty much all I ever played on their platforms.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:


They weren't going to go to Sega...I really don't know where you're getting this. Nintendo was who they were slated to have those games for before Sony changed the dev plans. This is going in circles because you cant deal with the reality that third party devs were on better terms with Nintendo and gained new favor with Sony in ways never Sega could never measured up to. Sega had awesome first party so thats pretty much all I ever played on their platforms.

Yes they would, in fact they did. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Wipeout, Psygnosis Games, Croc, etc were all Saturn games, those series didn't continue on the Saturn because of the Playstation, not the N64, please get it though your head.



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happydolphin said:
Turkish said:
Muffin31190 said:
Lets not forget that if it wasnt for nintendo the playstation wouldnt have been created .... (gasp) IT'S NINTENDO THAT STARTED IT ALL

FUUUUUUUU


As if Nintendo was the first console ever LOL! And if it wasn't for PS1/PS2 your games would still be on cartridges instead of discs.

Historically, you know that this is incorrect right? Rather, had it not been for the PS1, Nintendo would have been on disks much sooner.

what makes you say that?

 

why do you think Nintendo went with cartridges when the others chose discs?



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KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


They weren't going to go to Sega...I really don't know where you're getting this. Nintendo was who they were slated to have those games for before Sony changed the dev plans. This is going in circles because you cant deal with the reality that third party devs were on better terms with Nintendo and gained new favor with Sony in ways never Sega could never measured up to. Sega had awesome first party so thats pretty much all I ever played on their platforms.

Yes they would, in fact they did. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Wipeout, Psygnosis Games, Croc, etc were all Saturn games, those series didn't continue on the Saturn because of the Playstation, not the N64, please get it though your head.

Sega wasn't favored by the majority of the third parties as I said before, you seem to keep ignoring that part. Second of all state how well Sega did with the Dreamcast and third parties. Those games were multiplats and not exclusives. I will not continue with this conversation, Sega had an incompotent staff in both America and Japan and they both screwed the company up in so many different ways.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Signalstar said:

(Sega fans also do not like Sony fans for some reason either.)


Sega fans blame the PSX for destroying the Saturn adn they blame the PS2 for killing the Dreamcast and forcing Sega out of the hardware business.


Sega of America only had themselves to blame, alienating third parties. If you alienate third parties you alienate a good chuck of your base and Sega survived purely off of first party and a couple of third party games. That wasn't enough to help the Saturn and they failed to pay attention to trends when not only did they repeat the same mistakes, but also never pushed format to DVD. They were pirated to hell.

The fans dont blame their God. They blame the enemy.



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