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Microsoft came into the gaming industry to make money, so their attention is generally focused on Sony and not Nintendo. Same goes for the major following behind Microsoft if they take sides. |
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No...read the story of why Microsoft came into the industry. Sonys marketshare was a threat and they threatened the PC market (multimedia and os), so the Direct X team convinced Microsoft to create the Xbox. Since then they've lost sight of their defense of PC and have actually aided Sony in picking at the PC market, taking devs and attracting more attention to consoles. Thank goodness for Steam.
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so what you want to tell us is that a company is selling new products to stay alive and won't get raped by another company in the future?
i never thought that!
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To stay alive? Microsofts shareholders wanted out, but they ignored them and have repeatedly thrown it in their face about the success of the 360. Microsoft didnt need to be involved in the gaming industry in that capacity but just like Apple they dont want anyone getting ahead in personal multimedia besides themselves. Microsoft did not need to enter gaming to stay alive, they knew this from the start. Their attacks on alternative multimedia caused them to lose focus which opened up apples marketshare in the world even further.
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could you make your point a bit more clear ? and more specifically related to op's question ?
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See my first post.
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"Microsoft came into the gaming industry to hurt Sony, so their attention is generally focused on Sony and not Nintendo. Same goes for the major following behind Microsoft if they take sides."
and your point is ? how does that explain that ninendo fans feel similar to xbox fans ?
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It correlates. The companies who compete with each other the most tend to correlate with fanboy wars. Mario vs Sonic, Whopper vs Big Mac, Samsung (Android) vs Apple, Star Trek vs Star Wars, the list goes on and on. When two similar but powerful products capture the attention on of opinionated people, you will hear about it. When two enthusiasts of rivaling brands meet, either they will have a nice debate but the pros and cons of what they prefer or an explosive argument. Nintendo doesnt have an issue, because Microsoft's focus was never on Nintendo except to gather casuals off of what it started. Nintendo and Sony have had words, which is why after Sega, their words were primarily for Sony and vice versa. Do you hear Sega and Nintendo fanboys arguing in the forums? Exactly...there werent many or in most cases none at all when it counted. People are living off of Segas memory so fanboys wont fight about it.
This gen Nintendo fans were alienated, because their offerings were to a totally different crowd from Microsoft and Sony who were focused on one another. Of course Sonys always remembers Nintendo and the fans follow suit as well.
As for Nintendo and Xbox fans feeling similar, they don't they just have a common enemy. The most they have to argue about based on competition is who went after the casuals. When it comes to the core, thats not really worth arguing. The only arguing you see ocurring is between Sony and Microsoft owners (about casuals) between the Kinect and the Eyetoy. This is when Nintendo fans come in and side with the Microsoft fans and you get the picture.
With the Wii U, both Sony and Microsoft owners will now have words with Nintendo, because they are playing with the same games current gen owners are playing. They will have words.
As I said....it correlates.
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again - the same simp;le questioon you seem to avoid :
when MS entered the console market they were more of a threat to nintendo than to sony as they were competing for second spot and somehow they had the same dynamic as today meaning sony fans were perceived as the most arrogant
so your correlation of competing corporations to competing fanbases is basically in your head 
On the other hand if you consider that in any sector supracist believers of a brand (sony / apple are the eprfect example) have cult aspects that prevent discussion from being factual then there is a correlation
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No. Read it anywhere, Microsoft responded to Sony's doubling growth of the gaming industry and saw that Sony was a threat because of multimedia and OS. Look up how Microsoft got into the industry and you will the direct X guys proposed the idea for a console and the board laughed at them. They kept in talks and eventually had a meeting with Bill Gates who was behind the idea once they saw Sony as a visible threat. Look it up...it has nothing to do with Nintendo...they want Sony. What they wanted from Nintendo was fifty million+ casual gamers Nintendo brought in, which is what the Kinect went after.
You are not judging the correlations based on what I am saying. I stated the companies make movements, the fans follow those movements. Any movement they make the fans will bark about it online. All major brands have some following, it just so happens that Nintendo and Microsoft find Sony to be a threat...therefore...their fans also do.
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man you really believe things instead of thinking them through... your logic is so flawed it's like a french cheese drawn by Disney...
even by your criteria (Sony and MS dispute over the living room being apparent to the fan base even though it isn't and xbox had no fans to start with) then you should consider that Microsoft wasn't trying to become number 1 all of a sudden and was instead trying to find a comfortable positionning. So by your own "logic" the aim of MS's first gen being to at least have a decent market share they were more in competition with Nintendo than Sony at the time and by tyour own logic Ninty fans and MS fans should have been at each other's throats which wasn't the case.
Unless you imagine fans as fanatic people who will support the long term strategy of their respective providing corporations against their own interest and having guessed that Xbox would be able to make it which was very far from the perception of 90% of gamers at the time [the xbox being the first non japanese console to survive after the video game crash]
frankly - your theory is somewhat delusional...
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"In 1998 four engineers from Microsoft's DirectX team, disassembled some Dell laptop computers to construct a prototype Microsoft Windows-based video game console. The team hoped to create a console to compete with the Sony's upcoming PlayStation 2, which was luring game developers away from the Windows platform. The team approached Ed Fries, the leader of Microsoft's game publishing business at the time, and pitched their "DirectX Box" console based on the DirectX graphics technology developed by Berkes' team. Fries decided to support the team's idea of creating a Windows DirectX based console."
- Says the delusional guys.
http://technografy.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-xbox-infographic.html
I am doing finals assignments and this has now become a waste of time just because you choose to disagree with something that is true, which I've read. I did not just come up with this. Nintendo was never a threat to Microsoft, even when Nintendo was winning Microsoft was still focused on Sony acting like them and their offerings didnt exist.
You're right, I'm deluded just because you dont want to understand how it is. I'm going to heed what others are saying and stop some of you from understanding from now on.
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