kain_kusanagi said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Not true, Sony expanded the market.Sega consoles never sold that much to begin with when you look at the amount of consoles they've shipped from generation to generation. The Genesis was pretty much it for them and even that couldnt properly compete with Nintendo. Before Sony entered the console race home consoles were frowned upon and Nintendo dominated a console race that at best commanded ninety million consoles. When Sony entered the console race they increased the userbase to two hundred million consoles and solidified consoles in the media as potent multimedia electronics. Sony saught respect for gaming consoles,and gained the respect of the wealth of third parties at a staggering pace. Sega was in a downward spiral regardless of the existence of Sony. Nintendo was butchering Sega and Sony showed both how you create a dominant console and stay ahead of trends, because after all they were a hardware company. You pirate their format, they'll just make another one. Microsoft at that point was notified of Sonys market dominance and the increase in the size of the gaming market and saw the console industry as a visible threat to their multimedia dominance because of their then monopoly over PC OS and was talked into making a console to cut down Sonys marketshare.
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If you think that all the 3rd party games that the PSX got but the Saturn didn't would have simply evaporated if there were no PSX you are delusional.
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Look up any documentary on the fall of Sega and you'll find that all of their problems were their own. They either flopped many times, failed with marketshare or third parties. Many of these problems were due to Sega of America and their head who later left and went to Microsoft. Nintendo never lost their footing. Nintendo never lost a gen to Sega and Sega kept flopping around like a fish during the time of the Saturn switching consoles after four years to the Dreamcast. Sega could never manage to sell above ten million consoles. When Sony came, they couldn't keep up. The only company whose marketshare was truly affected by Sony was Nintendo.
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You've done it again. You ignored the fact that if the Playstation never existed that all those PS exclusives would have been Saturn exclusives. You keep saying how Sega made mistakes, that's true, but you seem to refuse to acknowledge that the nail in Sega's coffin was Sony. If Sony handn't sucked all the air out of the video game market Sega could have kept breathing.
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hmmm you think so?
The industry would be WAAAAAAYYYYY different if Sony didn't come along
I read that Saturn was horrible to program for(or someshit like that) and everybody liked the ps1 more for some tech reasons. IDK if the ps1 games would be the same if they were all made on the Saturn. I'm about to go look that up really quick because i was reading about that not too long ago
