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killerzX said:
Rath said:
Thank goodness I live in a country with a sensible gun culture and sensible gun control laws. We have very little gun crime (and rather few accidental gun deaths) because of it. I simply could not feel safe around people carrying deadly weapons.

indeed, thats why im armed at all times. i never know when somebody with a weapon is going to try to hurt someone


I would find it difficult to live in a country where people, like you, are armed all the time. Maybe I'm just lucky to live in a country with so little gun crime though - here even the police aren't armed.



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Americans... stop living in the 18th and 19th century..

 

Damn you people are stubborn



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Naum said:

Americans... stop living in the 18th and 19th century..

 

Damn you people are stubborn


Even tho im not american, im getting pretty tired of seeing all this superiority complex bullcrap coming from Canadians and Europeans (Especially Netherlands and Sweden) towards Americans. I don't know how can they put up with it. Oh well, i guess being the most powerful country in history  has it's downsides



Precisely how gun control works. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

"In the early morning hours of Sunday, March 16, 1975, Carolyn Warren and Joan Taliaferro who shared a room on the third floor of their rooming house at 1112 Lamont Street Northwest in the District of Columbia, and Miriam Douglas, who shared a room on the second floor with her four-year-old daughter, were asleep. The women were awakened by the sound of the back door being broken down by two men later identified as Marvin Kent and James Morse. The men entered Douglas' second floor room, where Kent forced Douglas to sodomize him and Morse raped her.

Warren and Taliaferro heard Douglas' screams from the floor below. Warren telephoned the police, told the officer on duty that the house was being burglarized, and requested immediate assistance. The department employee told her to remain quiet and assured her that police assistance would be dispatched promptly.

Warren's call was received at Metropolitan Police Department Headquarters at 0623 hours, and was recorded as a burglary-in-progress. At 0626, a call was dispatched to officers on the street as a "Code 2" assignment, although calls of a crime in progress should be given priority and designated as "Code 1." Four police cruisers responded to the broadcast; three to the Lamont Street address and one to another address to investigate a possible suspect. (This suggests that when they heard that there had been a burglary, the police must have felt that they had a promising lead on a culprit.)

Meanwhile, Warren and Taliaferro crawled from their window onto an adjoining roof and waited for the police to arrive. While there, they observed one policeman drive through the alley behind their house and proceed to the front of the residence without stopping, leaning out the window, or getting out of the car to check the back entrance of the house. A second officer apparently knocked on the door in front of the residence, but left when he received no answer. The three officers departed the scene at 0633, five minutes after they arrived.

Warren and Taliaferro crawled back inside their room. They again heard Douglas' continuing screams; again called the police; told the officer that the intruders had entered the home, and requested immediate assistance. Once again, a police officer assured them that help was on the way. This second call was received at 0642 and recorded merely as "investigate the trouble;" it was never dispatched to any police officers.

Believing the police might be in the house, Warren and Taliaferro called down to Douglas, thereby alerting Kent to their presence. At knife point, Kent and Morse then forced all three women to accompany them to Kent's apartment. For the next fourteen hours the captive women were raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon one another, and made to submit to the sexual demands of Kent and Morse."



Player1x3 said:
Soleron said:
Max King of the Wild said:
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Yeah, let me disable a 250 lbs 6'4" criminal... THATS A BRIGHT IDEA!

"Excuse me sir, I see you have a weapon. Why don't you put it down and let's settle this like gentlemen" LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!

OK. It's very sad, people die every day. Can't be helped. I also believe terrorist attacks should be allowed for the same reason. The prevention (gun proliferation) is worse than the alternative.

If someone entered a house with the intent of killing, assume the target is already dead.


It's not that I like either of those things it's just that on a purely utilitarian basis we can't afford to stop them. Choose something that affects more than a few tens of people a year please.

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sc94597 said:

 

Precisely how gun control works. 

 

Show me a pattern of thousands of similar incidents and I will agree.



Soleron said:
Player1x3 said:
Soleron said:
Max King of the Wild said:
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Yeah, let me disable a 250 lbs 6'4" criminal... THATS A BRIGHT IDEA!

"Excuse me sir, I see you have a weapon. Why don't you put it down and let's settle this like gentlemen" LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!

OK. It's very sad, people die every day. Can't be helped. I also believe terrorist attacks should be allowed for the same reason. The prevention (gun proliferation) is worse than the alternative.

If someone entered a house with the intent of killing, assume the target is already dead.


It's not that I like either of those things it's just that on a purely utilitarian basis we can't afford to stop them. Choose something that affects more than a few tens of people a year please.

You're the manly man, aren't you ^^?



Soleron said:
sc94597 said:

 

Precisely how gun control works. 

 

Show me a pattern of thousands of similar incidents and I will agree.

For starters, Washington D.C has the highest homicide rate in the country and only recently allowed handguns. Meanwhile, New Hampshire has some of the most lenient gun policies and at the same time has the lowest homicide rates, comparable to Switzerland (which also has strong gun rights.) 

But it has been made quite clear that the police aren't here to protect us in the U.S, or at least they're not obligated to. This has been stated in dozens of court cases since 1870. As long as we have guns, it's fine with me. 

I love articles like these when the vulnerable protect themselves, when otherwise they could not. 

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/23/12-year-old-girl-shoots-home-intruder/

Anyway, should we ban cars? There are about three times more deaths by care per year than gun deaths. In fact, why not go back to prohibition? Drunk drivers kill 25,000 people per year! 

As a citizen of a free nation, and as a constiutent of  peoples who employ the government, I'll fight to the last breath for every single one of my constiutional rights, including the second ammendment, but also others which are being infringed upon by our current, oversized Federal government, like due process of law, in example. 



I'm one of those criminals that was born in Chicago, IL USA, so I might not be the one to ask about all of this.



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