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Turkish on 08 December 2012

Oh my god, that was fast.



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fordy on 08 December 2012

The video shown appears to only be within the limits of the Wii mode. Would need further convincing to see if it gives any control over the WiiU.



fordy on 08 December 2012
pezus said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
Wii was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect this one to be unhackable?


PS2 was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect the PS3 to be unhackable?

Have Nintendo expressed any interest in fixing the Wii's hacking problem with the Wii U? Sony put a lot of emphasis on that.


Did Sony express any interest in fixing the PS2's hacking problem when the PS3 was out?



fordy on 08 December 2012
BasilZero said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
Wii was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect this one to be unhackable?


PS2 was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect the PS3 to be unhackable?


It technically is now, you would need 3.55 firmware or below to actually be able to run homebrew apps on the PS3. 

 

Of course nothing is unhackable so it could happen again but all attempts for the past almost 2 years have been unsuccessful unless you had the original PS3s or a PS3 with 3.55 firmware and below.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no "unhackable" system available today. Period.

This includes game consoles, computers, supercomputers, etc.



fordy on 08 December 2012
pezus said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
Wii was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect this one to be unhackable?


PS2 was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect the PS3 to be unhackable?

Have Nintendo expressed any interest in fixing the Wii's hacking problem with the Wii U? Sony put a lot of emphasis on that.


Did Sony express any interest in fixing the PS2's hacking problem when the PS3 was out?

Huh. They fixed the hacking problem with the PS3, yes. You seem to have misunderstood the question. Did Nintendo want to do the same with WIi U?


Are you jumping the gun here? Look at the damn video. It shows the homebrew channel running on the WiiU in Wii mode. It would need further evidence to show it's breached the limits imposed when the WiiU CPU is in "Wii mode", otherwise, it's just like hacking any other Wii console.



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fordy on 08 December 2012
pezus said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
fordy said:


Did Sony express any interest in fixing the PS2's hacking problem when the PS3 was out?

Huh. They fixed the hacking problem with the PS3, yes. You seem to have misunderstood the question. Did Nintendo want to do the same with WIi U?


Are you jumping the gun here? Look at the damn video. It shows the homebrew channel running on the WiiU in Wii mode. It would need further evidence to show it's breached the limits imposed when the WiiU CPU is in "Wii mode", otherwise, it's just like hacking any other Wii console.

Yes, I'm jumping the gun because I expect Wii U games to become playable any day now. What I'm asking is if anyone thinks it's not going to happen relatively soon.


WiiU games are playable now, otherwise it would be a useless console. 

As for whether the WiiU will be hacked anytime soon, it would determine how much isolation  Nintendo keeps the Wii mode from the original mode. The fact that the console resets to boot into such a mode is a relatively good sign that it's pretty isolated, and most likely CPU level secure (ie. Would require a reset to take the CPU out of Wii-mode to access the WiiU full hardware, at which point, you lose control of the CPU). To say this is anywhere close to hacking the WiiU is like saying the PS2 breaches clearly show that PS3 is just as unsecure.



forest-spirit on 08 December 2012

The 3DS was also "hacked" immediately (before release even, iirc) but just like in this case it worked while running in DS mode and we've yet to see a wave of 3DS pirates sweep across the interseas. From what I know there have been cases of "hacking" with the Vita as well but there's still no way to pirate Vita games.
So I wouldn't go into panic mode just yet.



fordy on 08 December 2012
BasilZero said:
fordy said:
BasilZero said:
fordy said:
pezus said:
Wii was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect this one to be unhackable?


PS2 was easy as fuck to mod/hack. Did anyone expect the PS3 to be unhackable?


It technically is now, you would need 3.55 firmware or below to actually be able to run homebrew apps on the PS3. 

 

Of course nothing is unhackable so it could happen again but all attempts for the past almost 2 years have been unsuccessful unless you had the original PS3s or a PS3 with 3.55 firmware and below.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no "unhackable" system available today. Period.

This includes game consoles, computers, supercomputers, etc.


You need to read my post again, I never said there was a "unhackable system", I just said it was unhackable atm, for an example when the iPhone 5 was in development, I dont think it was hacked, do you? Every system is hackable, you dont have to tell me the obvious.

Edit: For clarification: None of the newer PS3s are hackable atm


Newer PS3s are hackable. They don't undergo a hardware change later in life to make them hackable. Any previous PS3s released before an exploit is found is still susceptible to said exploit. Therefore, they are hackable.



fordy on 08 December 2012
forest-spirit said:
The 3DS was also "hacked" immediately (before release even, iirc) but just like in this case it worked while running in DS mode and we've yet to see a wave of 3DS pirates sweep across the interseas. From what I know there have been cases of "hacking" with the Vita as well but there's still no way to pirate Vita games.
So I wouldn't go into panic mode just yet.


This is the best analogy so far.



Soleron on 08 December 2012

The 3DS is completely locked down.

The main bad effect is NO SOUNDTRACK RIPS are possible. Not even if you own the game. I really want the Mario Tennis Open music, specifically Mushroom Valley and Main Menu, but the only recordings are directly from the 3DS speakers i.e. terrible and with sound effects.