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The only reason Sony would lower there price so soon would be if they were clearly going to miss their march 08targets by a huge margin. Any short term loss made from a price-cut woul be preferable to a large scale shareholder walkout.



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^good point--just b/c they have other division dosent mean the game division is immune to failure



 

mesoteto said:
@Dno--could scarecrow argument--agreed about the people who bought it, but they are not the majority market so acting like they are is wrong

people that bought that wanted it, the average joe is not going to pay more for something he is not going to use , which was my point-

and making comment about software comming from 360 is silly b/c its the same point as before--sure teh 360 sells software but you have to pay more for the extra features like HD and such and if you dont want/need that right now its a moot point for more money....or you can buy the system that just plays games like you want

and you again have givien me no facts you stated your opinion which is awesome and great but your wrong. i and the millions who bought 360 and ps3 and still buy it love those "extra features" and are willing to pay for them (see THIS VERY SITE) and some dont.

i love this all of a sudden average joe stuff because if im correct the average joe bought the ps2 right? the MARKET LEADER AND THE HIGHEST SELLING CONSOLE IN HISTORY. i no out of the 120 something millions who bought ps2s (and are still buyin them in high numbers) some of them didnt want the DVD player...or the online.....or the harddrive.......or the music player in it.......... but it still sold and became the highest selling system of all time. i THINK I THINK!!!!!! some of the people buying a ps2s have all those features and was at one time willing to pay for it. (npd number showed in US alone ps2 selling 900k.....thats a lot of average joes).

And if you logic makes sesne then the gamecube would be the highest selling system becasue it was the cheapest and only did one thing and thats play games but it was not was it.....hmmmmm...... guess some average joes will pay for some features dont you?



@dno--dude i give up your words are feeble and twisted as an old womans(great quote from the 13th warrior)

you seem to think that just b/c some people are paying for extra features they want everyone must be, you also seem to think that last gen should be taken into acct when discussing current gen systems,

and your right the average joe bought the Ps2 for games...lots of games not b/c it could network, not b/c it could be a dvd player...but b/c it played games --sure there were some that bought it for the extras...but the MAJORITY (see i can do caps as well) bought it for the great libary it had/has/and will have...that is the reason it sold so well

the reason the gamecube tanked was b/c it did not get the games, even if its cheap it had nothing to play (unlike its wii offspring--people are workign to get it on there)

the point you seem to breese over (and look silly for) is this
some peopel will pay for teh extra eatures if they want, the averge consumer will not pay extra for items they dont need or want



 

If Sony drops the PS3's price Sony would take a major hit. The fact that they would have lowered the price for the third time in less then a year. Price drops do create interest in a product but it does by hurting the bottom line of the company. Sony stocks would drop about 10-15% if investors see the price of the PS3 drop again.



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mesoteto said:
@dno--dude i give up your words are feeble and twisted as an old womans(great quote from the 13th warrior)

you seem to think that just b/c some people are paying for extra features they want everyone must be, you also seem to think that last gen should be taken into acct when discussing current gen systems,

and your right the average joe bought the Ps2 for games...lots of games not b/c it could network, not b/c it could be a dvd player...but b/c it played games --sure there were some that bought it for the extras...but the MAJORITY (see i can do caps as well) bought it for the great libary it had/has/and will have...that is the reason it sold so well

the reason the gamecube tanked was b/c it did not get the games, even if its cheap it had nothing to play (unlike its wii offspring--people are workign to get it on there)

the point you seem to breese over (and look silly for) is this
some peopel will pay for teh extra eatures if they want, the averge consumer will not pay extra for items they dont need or want

My feeble and twisted words have all been backed up by sales and in done talking to you as you are a fanboy with no real proof of anything but the averge consumer and your wrong because he highest selling system of all time is the ps2 and it had feature out the ass.

I never said the ps2 ONLY sold for its features you still cant read. i said if they want it and its hot it will sell and that is PROVEN by the ps2. im done with you as you are saying the wii has lots of games and it does NOT compared to the 360 (which is why more people spend money on it). so again your opinions mean nuthin (thats right look at how i spelled it) intill the wii takes 70% of the market like the ps2 did and sell for 7 years like the ps2 IS.



XGamer0611 said:
If Sony drops the PS3's price Sony would take a major hit. The fact that they would have lowered the price for the third time in less then a year. Price drops do create interest in a product but it does by hurting the bottom line of the company. Sony stocks would drop about 10-15% if investors see the price of the PS3 drop again.

 I think your f ailing to take alot of things into consideration , PS3's '08 Lineup , The cost reduction of the PS3 ( Blu-Ray's success being part of this) etc etc . Sony would have to justify any price changes they made when they do so and I seriously dought they'd cut the price if it wasn't the most logical choice .




mesoteto said:
@dno--dude i give up your words are feeble and twisted as an old womans(great quote from the 13th warrior)

you seem to think that just b/c some people are paying for extra features they want everyone must be, you also seem to think that last gen should be taken into acct when discussing current gen systems,

and your right the average joe bought the Ps2 for games...lots of games not b/c it could network, not b/c it could be a dvd player...but b/c it played games --sure there were some that bought it for the extras...but the MAJORITY (see i can do caps as well) bought it for the great libary it had/has/and will have...that is the reason it sold so well

the reason the gamecube tanked was b/c it did not get the games, even if its cheap it had nothing to play (unlike its wii offspring--people are workign to get it on there)

the point you seem to breese over (and look silly for) is this
some peopel will pay for teh extra eatures if they want, the averge consumer will not pay extra for items they dont need or want

my words are twisted but he agreed with me on the ps2 part LOL. this dude lost some credit to me.

And 1 last thing if you think some people arent buying the ps3 for a blu-ray then your wrong again in fact i no more people buying for a blu-ray (yes an extra feature!!!!!) then the games (and i work in retail so i no the customer habbits a little more then you) so now im done talking to you because all my words are backed up and yours are STILL nuthin but crap.





Dno said:
mesoteto said:
@Dno--could scarecrow argument--agreed about the people who bought it, but they are not the majority market so acting like they are is wrong

people that bought that wanted it, the average joe is not going to pay more for something he is not going to use , which was my point-

and making comment about software comming from 360 is silly b/c its the same point as before--sure teh 360 sells software but you have to pay more for the extra features like HD and such and if you dont want/need that right now its a moot point for more money....or you can buy the system that just plays games like you want

and you again have givien me no facts you stated your opinion which is awesome and great but your wrong. i and the millions who bought 360 and ps3 and still buy it love those "extra features" and are willing to pay for them (see THIS VERY SITE) and some dont.

i love this all of a sudden average joe stuff because if im correct the average joe bought the ps2 right? the MARKET LEADER AND THE HIGHEST SELLING CONSOLE IN HISTORY. i no out of the 120 something millions who bought ps2s (and are still buyin them in high numbers) some of them didnt want the DVD player...or the online.....or the harddrive.......or the music player in it.......... but it still sold and became the highest selling system of all time. i THINK I THINK!!!!!! some of the people buying a ps2s have all those features and was at one time willing to pay for it. (npd number showed in US alone ps2 selling 900k.....thats a lot of average joes).

And if you logic makes sesne then the gamecube would be the highest selling system becasue it was the cheapest and only did one thing and thats play games but it was not was it.....hmmmmm...... guess some average joes will pay for some features dont you?

Ive been trying to keep track of this debate, and quite frankly i find it hilarious. Dno, you keep changing your argument every post, it doesnt make any sense half the time (that, and the fact that it is very, very hard to understand half of what you are saying, because your grammer and spelling is horrific).

First off Dno, multiple price cuts in a short period of time can hurt a consoles reputation. Yes, in the short term there will be a significant sale increase, but not in the long term if price cuts are done repeatedly. People are price conscious, and they dont want to buy something that will be $100 cheaper in a months time when they can just wait. Not everyone thinks like that, but some do. Repeated price cuts also can make the consumer cautious, as that can generally mean that the product isnt selling well.

Second off, people do buy the PS3 just for Blu-ray, just like people buy it just for games (im pretty sure that you disputed this fact, but if you didnt i am sorry, but in my defense a lot of what you write doesnt make any sense whatsoever). Its like when people buy computers; people buy computers for word processing, for the internet, for games, and some buy it for all those things. Why would some one who wants a pc for the internet buy a £2000 gaming pc though? Its like with the PS3 and xbox. People will, and do, choose the 360 over the PS3 sometimes because they are buying it for games (why would someone who wants just games spend extra money on something they will not use?), while other will choose the PS3 because they want Bluray (or both), and then you will get people who will just go all out. The fact is that most people will not want to spend mroe than they have to, which is why so many people buy the PS3 as a dedicated Bluray player, its future proof and its cheaper than other players.

Third off, didnt the PS2 have a bad start? If i distinctly remember, it was too expensive to begin with for the "average joe"... Yes, this console went on to be the best selling games console ever, but it didnt sell 120 milllion in its first year when it cost £300 (dunno how much it was in the states). It sold extremely well when the console price dropped, when it became more accessable for the "average joe", and it is still selling well because, once again, the "average joe" normally does not want to spend hundreds of pounds more when they are perfectly content with the cheaper option. This also applies for the Wii to a certain extent. The gamecube did not sell well because it was not marketed well, it looked like it was for children, and it didnt have all the agems people wanted on it, which the PS2 did have.

Your weird argument which you have changed multiple times is horrendously flawed and quite comical, and does not use the "facts, as you so put forward, but mostly opinion. 

Also, where does it say the PS3 is now profitable? i would like to see a link.