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Forums - Gaming - Nintendo May Be In Trouble When It Comes To Wii U's Initial Demand. (Updated With A UK Auction

DanneSandin on 07 December 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Never said that, I said they want simpler gameplay. Think of it like pop music, whats simpler works for everyone. The Wii made that available for all. Most aren't ready for twelve to sixteen button controller. You Nintendo fanatics ake offense when you only need two eyes and one brain between the two. Kinect did the same thing, but as far as living room multimedia that is probably the way most people will scroll for their media in the living room.

"They" sounds like everyone, that only applies to casuals, and don't say there aren't "complicated" games for the Wii.

@bold Just like every fanatic?


The complex games were for the core on the Wii trying to perfect certain genres lke shooters and the other games went back to classic controls where you could use older controls (how many people actually used those though?). The Wii using a peripheral makes games simpler though simplifying thing to just movement. At best Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Wii Fit and their ilk were the ones played the most.

So you're saying games on the Wii were "easier" because of simplify movements? Controls don't make a hard game (they make it frustrating if those controls are bad), hard games come from the skill and challenge the game have, not their controls. Mario Kart would have had the same difficulty if it was played on a 360 controller or the DualShock.

So defensive. There are challenging games on the Wii, but yes I mentioned Mario kart because it was one of the highly bundled titles.

Why defensive? We're just having a debate. Mario Kart being a bundle game doesn't mean anything, it just means is a popular game with high demand. 


Or its just bundled.

It had sold over 20M copies, so why NOT bundle it? It makes perfect sense.



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DanneSandin on 07 December 2012
archbrix said:
People need to be realistic about the magnitude of demand that the Wii enjoyed; it was an anomaly. WiiU (which is said to be shipping in greater numbers than the Wii) shouldn't be relegated to "low demand" yet just because a bunch of eBay/Amazon scalpers aren't profiting from it.

Going by that rationale, however: The Wii sold about 3m by the end of 2006 (2,954,781 by Dec 30, according to Vgchartz). Let's see what WiiU has sold by the end of 2012 before we declare that Nintendo may be in trouble.

Yeah, I think it's unfair to compare Wii U with Wii, since the later was a phenomenon! I say it's much more fair to compare Wii U with PS360, or even better yet, with the PS720. But, to be honest, PS3 could be deemed a failure - but only compared to PS2, and that's a comparison lots of people like to make... So comparing Wii U to Wii is equally unfair as comparing PS3 to PS2.

The interesting comparison will come with the PS720...



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DanneSandin on 07 December 2012
Mandalore76 said:
DanneSandin said:
thismeintiel said:
DanneSandin said:
We shouldn't compare Wii U with Wii; we should compare it to PS360 instead. Wii was a phenomena, and was on track to outsell the PS2, but never truly could do this in the end. But it sold at a record breaking pace the first few years.

How does Wii U stagger up to PS360?

Not quite sure how the 360 stacks up, right off hand, but I do know the PS3 fared better on eBay.  Initially, there were sales that ended north of $9000.  And going into the 2nd week, the sales were averaging ~$1200, or more than twice the entry price.

Haha that's some wicked prices!!! It's just silly!!!

I'm sorry, but if you $9000 for anything that retails for $599, you don't know (more likely don't care) how to bid in an auction.

Yeah, the bidder's obviously a troll ^^



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DanneSandin on 07 December 2012

I think that Nintendo should have released the Premium Package ONLY this year, and should have waited releasing The Basic package in Spring or Fall 2013... Early adopters seem to only be interested in Premium Wii U, and leaving the Basic on the shelves. Why not have released Basic together with Wii Fit U???



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S.T.A.G.E. on 07 December 2012
DanneSandin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Never said that, I said they want simpler gameplay. Think of it like pop music, whats simpler works for everyone. The Wii made that available for all. Most aren't ready for twelve to sixteen button controller. You Nintendo fanatics ake offense when you only need two eyes and one brain between the two. Kinect did the same thing, but as far as living room multimedia that is probably the way most people will scroll for their media in the living room.

"They" sounds like everyone, that only applies to casuals, and don't say there aren't "complicated" games for the Wii.

@bold Just like every fanatic?


The complex games were for the core on the Wii trying to perfect certain genres lke shooters and the other games went back to classic controls where you could use older controls (how many people actually used those though?). The Wii using a peripheral makes games simpler though simplifying thing to just movement. At best Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Wii Fit and their ilk were the ones played the most.

So you're saying games on the Wii were "easier" because of simplify movements? Controls don't make a hard game (they make it frustrating if those controls are bad), hard games come from the skill and challenge the game have, not their controls. Mario Kart would have had the same difficulty if it was played on a 360 controller or the DualShock.

So defensive. There are challenging games on the Wii, but yes I mentioned Mario kart because it was one of the highly bundled titles.

Why defensive? We're just having a debate. Mario Kart being a bundle game doesn't mean anything, it just means is a popular game with high demand. 


Or its just bundled.

It had sold over 20M copies, so why NOT bundle it? It makes perfect sense.


That and the fact that the Wii itself was a hot ticket item. The little plastic wheel was fun too. :)



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DanneSandin on 07 December 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DanneSandin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Or its just bundled.

It had sold over 20M copies, so why NOT bundle it? It makes perfect sense.


That and the fact that the Wii itself was a hot ticket item. The little plastic wheel was fun too. :)

Haha I haven't played Mario Kart Wii WITHOUT the wheel ^^



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DélioPT on 07 December 2012
johnsobas said:
DélioPT said:
I understand Nintendo wanting to use the Wii brand but, like the 3DS, i think Nintendo should had tried for a diferente design. Something that in a store would make the product stand out. Wii U seems like a fatter Wii and 3DS like a regular DS Lite.

That, with, as people say, barely any promotion, equals confusion and lack of excitment.


I think it was the right thing to call it because it still uses all of the wii accessories and you can transfer everything over.  The wiimote is still basically the main controller so i think it's appropriate.  It makes me feel better about all the money i spent on these wii accessories. 


My problem was not with the name. It`s more about how Nintendo didn`t do enough to make Wii U stand out and not being compared with Wii.
Sometimes the change in appearance is enough to make something look different.

Now that i think about it, Wii Mini seems to that better than Wii U! :D



thismeintiel on 08 December 2012

I don't seem to understand what some of you are saying about the shipment numbers. You're contradicting each other, really. Some say that the Wii U has more shipped than the Wii had at launch, and there aren't really any shortages, therefore the prices are low on resale. However, all the comments I see in the sales chart threads are there wasn't enough shipped, that's why sales aren't higher. Hearing the same things on the EU threads. Sorry, but it's one or the other. Either there is low shipments and little demand, hence the resale prices being so low on eBay, or there is low-average demand and there is enough stock to meet that demand. Personally, feel its the latter.



 

thismeintiel on 08 December 2012

Just wanted to post a UK eBay auction sale.  Seems like there are only ~210 people on the UK eBay reselling them, some are in the US.  Since there are so few, the sales are hours in between, so I probably won't be showing anymore of these.

Wii U Basic w/ Zombi U - Retail £292 (US Retail $360) - Sold for £247 ($395 US), including shipping.  Considering the seller is located in the US and the USPS has flat-rate International Priority shipping set at $61, which would bring the total US price at $456, this seller got royally screwed by this sale.



 

coolguy on 09 December 2012

Even here in America on ebay wiius are not selling its because the scalpers are asking way to much money and people are smarter and all stores have them in stock.
Just because its not selling on ebay dont mean anything...



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