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Forums - Sales Discussion - PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is a MAJOR flop - we need to talk about it

JayWood2010 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Kenology said:

He got banned for this but he is accurate in his description of how this cycle continues to work.

He is throwing around insults because fans hype games.

Nintendo fans hype games. Microsoft fans hype games. Do they get insulted in the same manner, let alone get lumped together as if all of them do these same things? Why does it make them desperate, foolish and unable to comprehend?

 

Take a step back and realize it isn't that big a deal.


It wouldn't let me access his profile?  How long of a ban is it?

And yes every fan hypes up titles.  But I also haven't seen as wild as predictions in a long time as I have for this game. 

Which predictions though? That of a very vocal but select few?

Rol links a thread where Gilgamesh gives a crazy prediction. If youactually  look through that thread you will see that majority don't even agree with him at all. Most here actually predicted between 1.5-3M sales overall (Average) from my memory. Some do say that they think the maximum it could "potentially" sell is around 5M, but if you also look, it wasn't just Sony fans who said that, which is why the attacking is way off base.


You will also see in that same thread that people claimed "Same thing will happen with this that happened to LBP. People expected HUGE sales and many expected even 10M." Even there I had to correct them to let them know that it wasn't Sony fans that thought that, but that it was DMeister who started the "LBP will be HUGE" thing and it was Gearbox (A user, not the studio) who was the one who predicted 10M. Doesn't matter though because once a crazy prediction is made, for some reason all Sony fans get lumped up into it unfairly.

 

it would be like everyone saying the Wii flopped because Nintendo fans predicted 200M+ sales for the Wii, meanwhile it was a select few, with JohnLucas I believe predicting WAY beyond that.

However,  rightfully so they did not get lumped together.



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Better than LBP first week, I'm hoping word of mouth will put some legs on it.



Not a surprise at all it reviewed pretty average or slightly above, really no hype and fighting games do not do that big of numbers anymore. I know I would see all kinds of posts like this with Sony's software holiday line up this year which had flop written all over it.



I told everyone this would flop and why it would flop in the uk and do decent in USA.

People laughed at me even though I gave every specific reasons based on certain trends.

Feels good.



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It's missing essential characters, what do you expect? I'm not buying it without Crash or Spyro.



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pezus said:
cunger said:
HokageTenshi said:
maybe Sony should make it as PlayStation-All-Stars-Battle-Shooters and might sell much more...?? xD


Yeah exclusive fighers only work on Nintendo..

Like Tekken, right?


Where is Tekken exclusive?



I'm glad to see the Defense Force in action, showcasing their mastery in the art Spin-fu. Am I missing something that everyone knows? Was this not a AAA game? Did it not take years to develop? Was it hyped beyond reason? Was it not advertised more than any Sony Exclusive this year? It's funny just s few weeks ago people were saying Forza was a flop even though it sold 3 times as much and was a spinoff with a small team. I love how when it's Sony exclusive under performing it's fine, but let this had been Nintendo or Microsoft exclusive and it would get bashed to no end.



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Gilgamesh said:
Demon's Souls sold 38K first week and went on to do 1.6 million, Valkyria Chronicles did 78K first week and sold over a million. It's barely first week numbers we have America and the UK (A place that sells similar to America) and sales are already about 130K+.

This is clearly a stealth troll thread as usual so this needs to be locked, if sales continue to fail revive it in a months time, that's fine, but as for now this thread means nothing and is purely here to troll users. No game can be judged after half a first weeks sales, at least give the game a chance to sell.


I wouldnt believe those numbers if I were you, VGChartz has a history of overtracking niche games



Euphoria14 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Kenology said:

He got banned for this but he is accurate in his description of how this cycle continues to work.

He is throwing around insults because fans hype games.

Nintendo fans hype games. Microsoft fans hype games. Do they get insulted in the same manner, let alone get lumped together as if all of them do these same things? Why does it make them desperate, foolish and unable to comprehend?

 

Take a step back and realize it isn't that big a deal.


It wouldn't let me access his profile?  How long of a ban is it?

And yes every fan hypes up titles.  But I also haven't seen as wild as predictions in a long time as I have for this game. 

Which predictions though? That of a very vocal but select few?

Rol links a thread where Gilgamesh gives a crazy prediction. If youactually  look through that thread you will see that majority don't even agree with him at all. Most here actually predicted between 1.5-3M sales overall (Average) from my memory. Some do say that they think the maximum it could "potentially" sell is around 5M, but if you also look, it wasn't just Sony fans who said that, which is why the attacking is way off base.


You will also see in that same thread that people claimed "Same thing will happen with this that happened to LBP. People expected HUGE sales and many expected even 10M." Even there I had to correct them to let them know that it wasn't Sony fans that thought that, but that it was DMeister who started the "LBP will be HUGE" thing and it was Gearbox (A user, not the studio) who was the one who predicted 10M. Doesn't matter though because once a crazy prediction is made, for some reason all Sony fans get lumped up into it unfairly.

 

it would be like everyone saying the Wii flopped because Nintendo fans predicted 200M+ sales for the Wii, meanwhile it was a select few, with JohnLucas I believe predicting WAY beyond that.

However,  rightfully so they did not get lumped together.

I do agree with you. But even 3m is pretty crazy.  Anyways you do make sense and I agree with you about a lot of stuff, but when people make these predictions it is asking for people (in this case Rol) to make a thread about it when it appears to not come close to predictions.  I believe at most ill probably do 1.5m and I think that is pretty realistic but this title was being hyped up by people a lot this year.  A lot of it was hate because it appears to be a clone of another similar brawler but a lot of it wasn't.  We would have the same kind of thread if Halo didn't achieve 3m+ on the first day and lostplanet was correct in what he said.  I know why he got banned but i dont know how long he is.  Im hoping it wasnt to severe because he was stating the truth and honestly there was much worst things said in this thread.