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Forums - Sales - Global up 24th November 2012 (Black Friday and Wii U week)

VGKing 2 hours ago
TheLastStarFighter said:
Also of note is the attach rate of ZombiU, which is about 20%, with Black Ops and Assassin's Creed just behind. I hope this keeps up and Wii U will get 3rd party support. There's no reason good 3rd party games can't thrive on WiiU, the Wii just never got good 3rd party.

Mario and Nintendoland will have legs, the other games won't. This is usually how it works on Nintendo consoles, no reason to think it would change now.

The extremely high attach rate for the Mario game should be alarming to 3rd parties.

 

It's how it's worked lately, but not how it used to work. In the NES and SNES days I bought lots of 3rd party software. Since the N64 hit, the best 3rd party games have been first on Playstation and now more recently on Playstation and Xbox. Games like Assassin's Creed, COD (with full features), Batman, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, and so on... these games haven't been on Nintendo consoles for more than a decade. It is not valid to say the 3rd party games won't sell because they didn't in the past because they weren't on the systems in the past. You have to go back to SNES to see a fully supported Nintendo system, and those games did sell.

I do agree that the games (in particular the non-exclusives) won't have the legs of Mario and NintendoLand, but that's because no games do. Nintendo software is extremely popular. Mario could sell 20 million or more. But if the 3rd party games don't sell well I think it's more because a lot of gamers already bought them on another system, not because they are currently on a Nintendo system. I think ZombiU will have decent longevity for an average-quality game since it's an exclusive. I'm hoping the others do decent for late ports. I'd like to see a Nintendo system get a little more mainstream in its content.



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I can understand the PS3 undertracking (38% error) to a certain point but the vita question is impressive. 107% off. What kind of tracking is it?



Lusche said:
ethomaz said:

Sony have to show the truth...

"Sony sold over 525,000 PlayStation 3s and 160,000 PS Vitas in North America during the week of Black Friday (Nov. 18-24), it has announced."

UNDERTRACKED!!! I know that.

There are something wrong with vgchartz in the latest chartz... adjustments every week.


is this sold to costumers or 'sold' as shiped to retailers as always ?

(because sony numbers usually are shiped 99% of the time)

So are Microsofts and Nintendos lmfao.
But this is a Black Friday report and they all report sold to consumers.



crissindahouse said:
@the2real4mafol

as long as it won't have a much higher install base as ps2 or ds i really don't wonder about that and it is sill way behind it. and it's also behind wii which alone shows that there is still place to sell to some people.

But Xbox 360 has always sold like mad in North America, i'm surprised there are so many people that wanted one but didn't get one till now



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Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030

So if Vita actually sold 160k, then this means the Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed data we have for the week is also massively undertracked. NPD can't come soon enough.



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the2real4mafol said:
crissindahouse said:
@the2real4mafol

as long as it won't have a much higher install base as ps2 or ds i really don't wonder about that and it is sill way behind it. and it's also behind wii which alone shows that there is still place to sell to some people.

But Xbox 360 has always sold like mad in North America, i'm surprised there are so many people that wanted one but didn't get one till now

ps2 also sold always like mad or not? or the ds, i don't see the difference. or some crazy sales in japan.



Told you all that NPD is going to be fun this month.



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crissindahouse said:
the2real4mafol said:
crissindahouse said:
@the2real4mafol

as long as it won't have a much higher install base as ps2 or ds i really don't wonder about that and it is sill way behind it. and it's also behind wii which alone shows that there is still place to sell to some people.

But Xbox 360 has always sold like mad in North America, i'm surprised there are so many people that wanted one but didn't get one till now

ps2 also sold always like mad or not? or the ds, i don't see the difference. or some crazy sales in japan.

But did they ever reach at least 800000 in one week in just north america before like Xbox did? 



Xbox Series, PS5 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

'When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the people's stick'- Mikhail Bakunin

Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030

Finally I can get into the sales again as a Nintendo fan!

Pretty good first week Wii U sales. But again, that's probably just the complete sell through from the first shipment, so we won't get an idea of the true demand until Nintendo is able to put more out there and things settle down.

DS officially will never die.

3DS is selling mediocre at least in the West, but at least it's not the Vita.

Damn, can't believe how weak Vita sales are. Maybe I'll pick one up when it's 80 bucks in the bargain bin a few years from now :/



There are something interesting in US data too...

CONSOLE VGC DATA OFFICIAL PR
X360 807k 750k+ * without Satardy 24th
WII 296k 300k+
WII U 411k 400k+
3DS 261k 250k+
DS 268k  275k+
PS3 ? 525k+
PSV ? 160k+

Why Wii and DS are below official PR and 360, Wii U and 3DS above official PR??? 360 way above.

Edit - Fixed for accuracy.