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NO. IN MY OPINION WHITOUR nintendo the gaming industry is over. Nintendo is the one balancing he equation. By themselves, MS and Sony would make the entire industry to colapse. Imagin just games dedicated to "hardcore" gamers, it would be a disaster. Now, the only thing Nintendo needs to get back is the third party support. Don't agree with you, Wii pushed the boundaries of this generation by expanding their user base. If you think 96million+64million+61million from the Three Big is not conincidence, Wii make it possible. Games shoul never be developed to be blockbuster movies, they should be developed to be fun and creative.



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CCFanboy said:
Jazz2K said:

I hope the other two are more powerful than the WiiU. I don't need a console that is barely more powerful than the currents. Third parties are very strong this gen and they sell more games than ever. Sony makes more first party games than MS yes but most of the appeal come from third party games. Of course some key 1st party games makes people want more one than the other (Halo/Uncharted) but overall COD, Mass Effect, Skyrim, GTA etc are the star of gaming these days. If your console can't properly play those... maybe all you care about are 1st party games hence why I think they should release all of their games on every devices possible.


Actually its already known I have five games on preorder. Just can't buy one of them until january :(

I have mario, tekken (my favourite fighting game), mass effect, assassin's creed and ninja gaiden on hold. Of the rest of the games announced I intend to get need for speed, aliens, monster hunter, pikmin and bayonetta. Plenty of third party games. As for the comment about your games running well, here is a rundown.

call of duty = no idea about it running badly on wii u yet. But it is casuing ps3 hard drives to corrupt, crash constantly, codes not working etc.

mass effect = that is a port and the developers haven't had all the time they need to get used to the hardware. But for what they have they have done a very good job with it. It looks just as good (if not better) than the 360 and ps3 versions.

skyrim = lol bethesda games are buggy garbage on any system. And again, especially ps3.

grand theft auto = no idea how that runs on anything yet. But rockstar have a bad history with games on, you guessed it, ps3.

Well to be honest, if you're buying a WiiU to play current gen games then more power to you, I would expect it to run games as much if not better than current hardware. Next gen though is a different story. We'll see how they fare agains't newer engines. If next gen hardware are comparable to WiiU and can't really run UE4 level games then it should be ok... but if they're way more capable and run engines that needs to be vastly downscaled to fit WiiU spec then you be the judge afterwards. Sony gets so much flack for having a game with a bit less resolution/blurryness/washed/etc than Xbox (like it's sooo much different it prevents one from playing), how will WiiU fare if it's specs and controls can't compare?



RolStoppable said:
The simplest solution for having all the best games on one single platform is this: Third parties should make proper games for the Nintendo system.


even simplier -- nintendo lets retro go third party.

 

OT - overall it is a good idea regardless of what the haters say.  i hope sony follows suit with their http://gaikai.com/ acquisition.  dedicated hardware will soon be irrelevant.  





Ill be happy if WiiU gets as much 3rd party love as 360 and ps3 does.



Yay!!!

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cbarroso09 said:

NO. IN MY OPINION WHITOUR nintendo the gaming industry is over. Nintendo is the one balancing he equation. By themselves, MS and Sony would make the entire industry to colapse. Imagin just games dedicated to "hardcore" gamers, it would be a disaster. Now, the only thing Nintendo needs to get back is the third party support. Don't agree with you, Wii pushed the boundaries of this generation by expanding their user base. If you think 96million+64million+61million from the Three Big is not conincidence, Wii make it possible. Games shoul never be developed to be blockbuster movies, they should be developed to be fun and creative.


I agree to some degree. Nintendo this gen has provided casuals a reason to enter in the gaming space and that's a good thing. I don't see how MS and Sony would make the industry colapse, this doesn't make sense actualy, last gen Nintendo was virtualy absent and gaming was doing well (thanks to Sony, yes... ).

Blockbuster movie level games have their place as much as other games in my opinion. In fact it's healthy for the industry to have blockbusters. There are so many different types of gamers it's a very interresting business now. Fun and creative games wouldn't push gaming where it is now, it's a combination of everything. Nintendo alone didn't made the industry what it is, every company had it's moment of glory and we all benefit from it.

Why I think Nintendo should exit the hardware space is mainly because of what it's becoming. It's not solely about games anymore but more about entertainment. People want to have access to as many services as possible on every one of their devices. Gaming is becoming a service just like movies and music are becoming. You have this box that plays you music, movies, games and all and all this in your living room. Nintendo would benefit greatly from becoming a service more than a hardware maker with services on it.



To all of you who think I'm agains't Nintendo, I also think MS should do the same and believes they will. Xbox Live will be a service available on almost every devices providing games to those who want to play MS games.

I think to some extends, they will sell games on different platforms because selling more Xboxes won't get them more money, Xbox Live will get them the money and visibility they want. I think Sony with the aquisition of GaiKai will do the same but they might want to use this to promote their different hardwares pcs/phones/tvs/tablets/consoles.



noname2200 said:
bananaking21 said:
noname2200 said:

Too many game journalists disagree for me to say that's true.

what game journalist has ever said that iOS games have depth, tight gameplay and tight controls like console games? also what iOS games have the length of games like skyrim or the replaiblity of games like CoD or battlefield?

Do you really want me to link to the plethora of blogs and articles in which journalists call for companies, including Nintendo in particular, to focus their business on iOS and other mobile devices? They wouldn't be doing that if they truly believed that good gameplay and tight controls weren't possible on those systems, now would they?

how many of them know how to develop. market and make games? how many of them know how to run and manage a game development studio? anybody in these plethora of blogs and articles an experienced business man in game development?

@ the bolded section, if anybody of those people have ever played a game on a controller than played a game on a touch screen wouldnt believe that. play a mario game see how tight the controls are and then tell me if it works on a touch screen. excuse me but i would rather trust nintendo who has been in the industry for 30 years and over a journalist or bloger who knows nothing about the gaming indusrty, the gaming market, game development, gameplay, or any info about the costs of iOS game development or console or handheld game development, costs and profit in the short and long term other than what he read on IGN and gamespot.com



RolStoppable said:
kitler53 said:
RolStoppable said:
The simplest solution for having all the best games on one single platform is this: Third parties should make proper games for the Nintendo system.

even simplier -- nintendo lets retro go third party.

A creative way to troll Microsoft. *high fives kitler53*


everything i know i learned from you.  glad to know you approve of my progress.



Jazz2K said:
CCFanboy said:
Jazz2K said:

You won't see me badmouthing Nintendo as I don't see the point of doing this. Maybe I'm biased but it's an Idea I came up with. I see all these threads agains't WiiU and it's controller tablet. I see all these Nintendo is kiddy and gets all the shovleware and bad ports threads on a lot of forums. Maybe Nintendo hardware is made so only Nintendo can come up with great games? 

Nothing would prevent Nintendo from releasing some sort of peripheral like they did with balance board to allow gamers to experience Nintendo's ways of playing. They're good at doing this anyway. Of course I would push them to change their business model, instead of investing in doing things that are not gaming related.


No worries. Your point about the internet isn't a good one because the internet likes to make a lot of noise. It has absolutely no relevance to what the outside world wants. Look at vita. Journalists, gamefaqs and neogaf were writing their opinions about how sony has the handheld to own. The price is affordable and I even saw people saying it had the best launch lineup ever. Now we get trolls who are saying to drop the price or "vita has no games". There are people writing doom and gloom. Seems they are wrong considering preorders.

You say it yourself. The problem isn't "third parties don't sell on nintendo". The problem is the users who choose to ignore the games because of whatever reason they have. I don't believe wii u will meet the same fate as wii for a second. Touch screen has been proven to be accepted by core gamers. Ds, 3ds and vita prove this. It doesn't effect the 'core' nature of the game. Also they have a pro controller for those who just can't accept wii u. They have done everything they possibly can to fix the complaints from those people.

I might not like that microsoft and sony's systems are (my view here) pretty much the same but with the first party being the only difference, but that doesn't mean I want them to go. The choice is there for those that want it. Also, people are comparing wii u to ps3 and 360. They aren't comparing it to the new consoles.

I hope the other two are more powerful than the WiiU. I don't need a console that is barely more powerful than the currents. Third parties are very strong this gen and they sell more games than ever. Sony makes more first party games than MS yes but most of the appeal come from third party games. Of course some key 1st party games makes people want more one than the other (Halo/Uncharted) but overall COD, Mass Effect, Skyrim, GTA etc are the star of gaming these days. If your console can't properly play those... maybe all you care about are 1st party games hence why I think they should release all of their games on every devices possible.

Read the link in my sig to find out why PS4 and x3ox won't be a major leap over wii u.

Anyways; IF Nintendo manages to create a console that can run all the 3rd party games (albeit slightly less graphically impressive; kinda like PS360 vs high end PCs) you'll see quite a loss in sales for Sony and Microsoft. I know of several people on this forum alone that has a Wii... AND a PS360 just to play 3rd party games. Imagine if Nintendo fans didn't have to buy a MicroSony system to be able to play the same kind of games. It would then come down to 1st party games. And we all know who wins then.



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