Kasz216 said:
RoryGamesFree said:
Kasz216 said:
If you've seen no proof of it. All that proves is that you aren't looking. Since they outright say they intentionally use human shields during Israeli bombings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs
As for the rest of your statement... these are terrible incidents... and why are they just incidents? Because it's RARE when Israel has slip ups like this.
Compaired to Hamas where such things are the standard.
You won't find an army anywhere in the world engaged in a conflcit that has a perfect humans rights record because often times the military under the stress fucks up.
Also, you've got your cause and effect wrong.
Everything Israel has done has been BECAUSE of the rocket launches. They came first.
If you want proof....
Look at the West Bank.
Compare the West Bank to Gaza.
Ask "Why are these two areas so different. If what Israel wants is just to tortue Palestinians"
This is a bed of Gaza's own making... What israel is doing is nothing any other country wouldn't be doing under the same circumstances.
It's fine to be calm about it over in the UK. I'm guessing if your uncle got killed by a missle though, or father, or even child... I think you'd want airstrikes to destroy their missle launching capabilties. Which is what these attacks are.
I don't think, with your family in the crossfire, you'd want to allow them the freedom to procure more and more missles, and to go for a "1 for 1" policy on air strikes, letting constant missle launching sites be built until enough deaths have been "racked up" to allow you to protect your own people by destroying one of the dozens of launchers aiming to kill your people.
Like some ridciulious beurcratic game of calculus with peoples lives.
If anyone needs to look in the mirror when it comes to promoting inhumane activities... it's you.
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so they copy the tactics of the people who attack them and occcupy their land, who'd have thought people do that...
the IDF are depraved scum mate, face it, your Zionism has blinded you but by all means ignore the facts.
yeah cause the West Bank is doing so well as a result right? there's also huge geographical differences that are the primary cause of the differences, cutting off Gaza from the West Bank is also a cause of the radicalisation in Gaza...it's a death camp of Israel's making, the only reason they don't do it in the West Bank is that the geography and controls they have over it are much more of an issue or people there would fight back against the cuntish scum of the earth rats that are the IDF and the illegal occupation of their land.
you again demonstrate you care not for the thousands upon thousands of Palestinains whose lives have been ruined by Israel's actions, occupation and attacks and ignore that Israel always kills far, far more civilians and people in general in every conflict it has, but hey when you are a blind cunt who cares about anyone other than your precious Israeli's right? I would rather no-one died, but clearly you are happy with near genocide but are angered by any defence against that genocide.
burecratic game? like the USA refusing to ever allow the barbarism of Israel's government to be held to account you mean? like their ignorance of the thousands of deaths, kidnappings and people living in poverty in Gaza because of Israel?
no it is YOU, your attitude is sickeningly depraved and you are a shame to humanity with it, your love of every Israeli life but utter dismissal of all the Palestinians who die and your love of the Israeli government and military whilst condemning everyything Hamas does without question...you are not only in the wrong, but you are blind to it, you are no better than people who defended the Nazi's and Hitler.
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A) They did it first... they weren't copying anybody.
B) Again... why is Gaza cut off. You don't seem to know. Again, it was because of Hamas' actions. No other reason.
I don't love Israel. I quite honestly don't give a shit about Israel. The world would of been much better off if your people would of told the Jewish people "No you can't settle in Israel.". Nor do I dismiss the palestinians that die. This whole thing is your countries fault afterall. Quite honestly it's the UK that should be cleaning up it's own damn mess.
I simply don't have any favorites nor a reason to have a favorite so i can look at reasonably.
It's pretty simple. As long as Gaza keeps firing rockets into Israel. Israel has every right to do what they can to stop those rockets from killing someone. If the IRA got big again and Ireland start lobbing rockets into England to get land you guys are still occupying, i'm guessing you'd want Ireland invaded and it's missle launching capabilties destroyed.
The idea of "proportiant force" is a stupid one, once things escalate into the other side trying to kill you. At that point, you shouldn't have to apologize for being better at it when the other side just won't stop.
If Gaza stopped firing rockets, stopped the terrorism. They'd have a moral highground. As it is though, what happened to them only happened because of their own terrorism... and to blame Israel for this is to essentially blame them because they're better.
It's like having a small kid next door constantly pick fights with you, then you get the blame because when you fight back you inevitably win.
Which is actually Hamas' strategy.
When Israel tried to step back and do the right thing... Hamas attacked them harder. As it is, Hamas see's gazan's lives as nothing more but poltiical capital to be spent... and that's exactly what they are doing.
When instead, such acts are rejected, and they accept a peaceful doctrine. Then they will have the moral upperhand.
As it is, they're just like a drunk smaller asshole picking a fight with a bigger asshole.
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