RoryGamesFree said:
Kasz216 said:
A) They did it first... they weren't copying anybody.
B) Again... why is Gaza cut off. You don't seem to know. Again, it was because of Hamas' actions. No other reason.
I don't love Israel. I quite honestly don't give a shit about Israel. The world would of been much better off if your people would of told the Jewish people "No you can't settle in Israel.". Nor do I dismiss the palestinians that die. This whole thing is your countries fault afterall. Quite honestly it's the UK that should be cleaning up it's own damn mess.
I simply don't have any favorites nor a reason to have a favorite so i can look at reasonably.
It's pretty simple. As long as Gaza keeps firing rockets into Israel. Israel has every right to do what they can to stop those rockets from killing someone. If the IRA got big again and Ireland start lobbing rockets into England to get land you guys are still occupying, i'm guessing you'd want Ireland invaded and it's missle launching capabilties destroyed.
The idea of "proportiant force" is a stupid one, once things escalate into the other side trying to kill you. At that point, you shouldn't have to apologize for being better at it when the other side just won't stop.
If Gaza stopped firing rockets, stopped the terrorism. They'd have a moral highground. As it is though, what happened to them only happened because of their own terrorism... and to blame Israel for this is to essentially blame them because they're better.
It's like having a small kid next door constantly pick fights with you, then you get the blame because when you fight back you inevitably win.
Which is actually Hamas' strategy.
When Israel tried to step back and do the right thing... Hamas attacked them harder. As it is, Hamas see's gazan's lives as nothing more but poltiical capital to be spent... and that's exactly what they are doing.
When instead, such acts are rejected, and they accept a peaceful doctrine. Then they will have the moral upperhand.
As it is, they're just like a drunk smaller asshole picking a fight with a bigger asshole.
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you talk so much rubbish I am not wasting my time on you, your bias is obvious and you aren't fooling anyone with your arrogant and condescending statements around them, you have all the waffle ability and ability to lie of a politician, when you want to talk about any of the facts I brought up rather than just talking out you overly large forehead then you know where to find me, till then don't bother wasting my time with replies as I will ignore them.
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You didn't bring up any facts that I can see. You suggseted that cutting off Gaza from the West bank made Gaza more radical.
The Blockade didn't start until AFTER hamas won the elections. So... do some more research.
Your opinion is pretty eaisly countered when you look at that facts. That's why your bailing on this arguement... I mean even Hamas themselves disagree with you.
If I'm lieing, feel free to prove it. However, just about any of the regular political posters in this forum will tell you that one of my main political positions is to end overseas military bases and military funding to nations.
Hell if anything you'd think I'd have an axe to grind with Israel, being part Aremnian, and Israel being the biggest supplier of weapons to Azerbaijan.
Really though, all one needs to do is look at the latest news.
Who asked for the cease fire? Israel.
If you were in the same position as Israel, you'd be acting the same way. You'd be less justified as well. Somehow I feel you probably think less of the IRA then Hamas though.
