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Nintendo would have lost every IP that would appear on disk format for the CD drive. (since that is was Sony demanded)


So you either keep investing money for a drive you will not support    or    you lose all your IP   or  you  drop the whole idea which is what Nintendo did.



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happydolphin said:
Turkish said:

Yeah no, Nintendo was full aware what the contracts were about, they backstabbed Sony and chose someone else. Sony's revenge was sweet though.

You're denying history, and that's wrong.

Nintendo was unaware and infuriated when they discovered the hidden clauses, from what I remember.

Hey, let's do this, you try to find a source, I'll try to find a source. Fair?

That way we don't argue who's daddy's greater than who.

I have never heard of this, but to me it sounds obvious why Nintendo chose someone else, because they exactly knew what Sony demanded. It was a very rude thing to do of Nintendo, something no one would expect from a Japanese company. The Snes had a Sony audio chip.



My suspicion is the following would've happened --

The SNES CD-ROM would've been released, had a few OK games and faded away into obscurity.

Nintendo and Sony ink a deal to work on the next-generation Super Nintendo (N64).

Silicon Graphics is not even in the picture, Sony designs the chipset for Nintendo.

System is a CD-ROM/cartridge hybrid console like the Saturn.

Panasonic releases the M2 console which becomes Nintendo's main competetion. 



Turkish said:
happydolphin said:
Turkish said:

Yeah no, Nintendo was full aware what the contracts were about, they backstabbed Sony and chose someone else. Sony's revenge was sweet though.

You're denying history, and that's wrong.

Nintendo was unaware and infuriated when they discovered the hidden clauses, from what I remember.

Hey, let's do this, you try to find a source, I'll try to find a source. Fair?

That way we don't argue who's daddy's greater than who.

I have never heard of this, but to me it sounds obvious why Nintendo chose someone else, because they exactly knew what Sony demanded. It was a very rude thing to do of Nintendo, something no one would expect from a Japanese company. The Snes had a Sony audio chip.


"Nintendo's deal with Philips was similar to the one previously inked with Sony, with one important difference: Software licensing was to remain under Nintendo's exclusive control."

Sony tried to screw Nintendo and Nintendo backed out.  I don't see anything rude on Nintendo's part.



sethnintendo said:
Turkish said:
happydolphin said:
Turkish said:

Yeah no, Nintendo was full aware what the contracts were about, they backstabbed Sony and chose someone else. Sony's revenge was sweet though.

You're denying history, and that's wrong.

Nintendo was unaware and infuriated when they discovered the hidden clauses, from what I remember.

Hey, let's do this, you try to find a source, I'll try to find a source. Fair?

That way we don't argue who's daddy's greater than who.

I have never heard of this, but to me it sounds obvious why Nintendo chose someone else, because they exactly knew what Sony demanded. It was a very rude thing to do of Nintendo, something no one would expect from a Japanese company. The Snes had a Sony audio chip.


"Nintendo's deal with Philips was similar to the one previously inked with Sony, with one important difference: Software licensing was to remain under Nintendo's exclusive control."

Sony tried to screw Nintendo and Nintendo backed out.  I don't see anything rude on Nintendo's part.


I don't think it was that simple. 

Nintendo made a deal with Sony way back in 1988. They then realized the contract they signed had undesirable terms with regards to software licensing. Someone at Nintendo probably should've been fired for that, because you really should read what you're signing. 

Nintendo then basically went behind Sony's back and signed a seperate deal with Philips in June 1991 (CES show). Which stunned Sony. 

Nintendo and Sony eventually reconciled in 1992, Nintendo would get the software royalties, Sony would get to make a CD-ROM/SNES hybrid hardware under the "Playstation" name. 

Nintendo eventually just ditched the idea of CD-ROM entirely and signed a deal with Silicon Graphics in August of 1993, which I think was always intended to be a cartridge based system. 

Ken Kutaragi convinced Sony execs to make their own game console, even though many Sony higher ups were against the idea.

The rest is history, the Playstation would go on to rout the N64. 



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I wonder if they made those Nintendo playstation



 

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It's kind of scary to think about. Some wonderful IPs might never have seen the light of day. That break-up ended up as a great thing for gamers.



pokoko said:
It's kind of scary to think about. Some wonderful IPs might never have seen the light of day. That break-up ended up as a great thing for gamers.


Some other wonderful IP might have been made instead.



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KungKras said:
pokoko said:
It's kind of scary to think about. Some wonderful IPs might never have seen the light of day. That break-up ended up as a great thing for gamers.


Some other wonderful IP might have been made instead.

From Sega, you mean, if they'd stayed in the hardware market?  Who knows.  If Sony hadn't gone their own way then the software side of that partnership might have been choked off by Nintendo and Mario--and I'm not a fan of Mario at all.

God of War might have Mario of War.  We might have gotten Uncharted: Mario's Fortune, which would have been about finding coins, or Mario Cooper: Plumber In Time.

No, what happened was for the best.



pokoko said:

From Sega, you mean, if they'd stayed in the hardware market?  Who knows.  If Sony hadn't gone their own way then the software side of that partnership might have been choked off by Nintendo and Mario--and I'm not a fan of Mario at all.

God of War might have Mario of War.  We might have gotten Uncharted: Mario's Fortune, which would have been about finding coins, or Mario Cooper: Plumber In Time.

No, what happened was for the best.

I think it would have been Mario Koopa: Plumber in Time.