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Conegamer on 13 November 2012
Jay520 said:
Conegamer said:

But your argument is nonsensical. This film was meant to be about the simplicity of Bond, rather than having hundreds of tacky one-use gadgets. And I liked that; it was more the thinking-man's Bond anyway, rather than just go in, shoot bad guys, use gadgets and get the girl. Which is fine, but this film should not be criticised for being now. Also, M was made to feel bad throughout the whole film; that was the point. To make her realise that she's only brought the organization down by being unable to let go of the classics and embrace the modern world. So that made sense.


A thinking-man's Bond? In what way? The action played out just like older ones, he went in and killed them with ease, except this time, the action was ten times worse. If they wanted to try something new, they could have at least made the action good.

That was the point. The film was much more mythodical and played out like a game of cat-and-mouse with Silva, as opposed to just a massive shoot-out. It also showed that Bond and MI6, as well as others, aren't invinsible and are prone to errors. It was not supposed to be action-packed, but more suspense-driven so when something does happen it leaves an impact. This is why the scenes towards to end of the film in the house were so good; because you knew they were vulnerable. That happened rarely in past films, which was OK, but the film should not be criticised for doing something new. It has been 50 years; after all.

I'm not sure what advertising was like in the US, but this was made very clear early on over here. This was not your traditional Bond film. It was one which demonstrated the frailties of the characters and how easily things can be brought down; as well as the transition from old to new. I liked that. 



 

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amp316 on 13 November 2012
Jay520 said:
Conegamer said:

But your argument is nonsensical. This film was meant to be about the simplicity of Bond, rather than having hundreds of tacky one-use gadgets. And I liked that; it was more the thinking-man's Bond anyway, rather than just go in, shoot bad guys, use gadgets and get the girl. Which is fine, but this film should not be criticised for being now. Also, M was made to feel bad throughout the whole film; that was the point. To make her realise that she's only brought the organization down by being unable to let go of the classics and embrace the modern world. So that made sense.


A thinking-man's Bond? In what way? The action played out just like older ones, he went in and killed them with ease, except this time, the action was ten times worse. If they wanted to try something new, they could have at least made the action good.

Yeah, the action in that opening sequence was no good.



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Conegamer on 13 November 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Thinking? Where was the thinking? SPoilers present!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoilers!!!!!!







The bullets in the house? "M" a desk jockey knows how to do that? Could someone tell me what the point of the game warden was again? What part of this movie made you think? We go from the last movie where Bond is a bad ass, to this movie just 1 year later IRL where he can barely hold on to an elevator. This film was made for nostalgic reasons only. The only reason it was saved in my eyes. Craig shooting at the end and the bond will be back sequence. I am not being unfarily harsh. I did not enjoy it. I have never came on this site and just said something was pure garbage just to say it is pure garbage. If I truly do not enjoy somehting I am going to say it.

Was it not clear from the fact he was shot, out of action for several months and unfit for duty? 

And the thing with the ligthswitches is fairly simple. Even I know how to do that and I've had absolutely no training whatsoever.



 

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Jay520 on 13 November 2012
Conegamer said:

That was the point. The film was much more mythodical and played out like a game of cat-and-mouse with Silva, as opposed to just a massive shoot-out. It also showed that Bond and MI6, as well as others, aren't invinsible and are prone to errors. It was not supposed to be action-packed, but more suspense-driven so when something does happen it leaves an impact. This is why the scenes towards to end of the film in the house were so good; because you knew they were vulnerable. That happened rarely in past films, which was OK, but the film should not be criticised for doing something new. It has been 50 years; after all.

I'm not sure what advertising was like in the US, but this was made very clear early on over here. This was not your traditional Bond film. It was one which demonstrated the frailties of the characters and how easily things can be brought down; as well as the transition from old to new. I liked that. 


So you agree that the action was trash? They could have at least made it good! I think I know why they didn't want to focus on the action: they didn't want to focus on trash. 



Conegamer on 13 November 2012
Jay520 said:
Conegamer said:

That was the point. The film was much more mythodical and played out like a game of cat-and-mouse with Silva, as opposed to just a massive shoot-out. It also showed that Bond and MI6, as well as others, aren't invinsible and are prone to errors. It was not supposed to be action-packed, but more suspense-driven so when something does happen it leaves an impact. This is why the scenes towards to end of the film in the house were so good; because you knew they were vulnerable. That happened rarely in past films, which was OK, but the film should not be criticised for doing something new. It has been 50 years; after all.

I'm not sure what advertising was like in the US, but this was made very clear early on over here. This was not your traditional Bond film. It was one which demonstrated the frailties of the characters and how easily things can be brought down; as well as the transition from old to new. I liked that. 


So you agree that the action was trash? They could have at least made it good! I think I know why they didn't want to focus on the action: they didn't want to focus on trash. 

I agree the action was not great; but it was not the focus of the film. The only bit of action really was right and the start and that was there for no real reason other than to start off with a bang and teach latecomers to the film a lesson to always be on time.



 

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Jay520 on 13 November 2012
Conegamer said:

I agree the action was not great; but it was not the focus of the film. The only bit of action really was right and the start and that was there for no real reason other than to start off with a bang and teach latecomers to the film a lesson to always be on time.


So you agree...excellent. If they wanted to try something new, they shouldn't have used James Bond. Do you see how misleading that it?



amp316 on 13 November 2012

Notice that only two guys are complaining...



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Jay520 on 13 November 2012

They should have left a disclaimer saying: Warning! Not a James Bond Film!



kopstudent89 on 13 November 2012

Loved it! Never liked Bond movies, this really changes everything. Lots of credit to Daniel Craig.  

*SPOILER*
Also the whole money penny thing was genius! The Money Penny ending just meant that Bond wasn't just resurrected but that he's only just started. I thought that was brilliant!



amp316 on 13 November 2012

Skyfall review will be up next Monday.

Bring the heat, Spurge and Jay.



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