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FatalInertia said:

Total BS, in a tablet unless your gaming CPU is vastly more important and Nexus wins handily, so its wash. And nexus can be had without the high cost.

Riiiiiiiight. You realize that during normal use, the CPU is barely being taxed, right? Have you ever done a system analysis on a machine you're using? CPU usage barely registers unless you start doing something significant with the device.

And you're 34 years old. Why do you care so much about Android that you have to defend it so vigorously?

And I'm pretty sure I know how "CPUs work". I spent years as a sysadmin and now work in web development. Derp.




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You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? The exact same thing applies to the gpu LMAO. It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

 

I am transcoding video on my pc now, gpu is at zero, cpu is at 50%, everything fgoes through the cpu, gpu is only used for certain tasks.



FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.

And congratulations on realizing that video encoding is CPU-intensive.




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rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.



FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.

Have you ever coded anything in your life? I'm guessing that answer is "no".




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rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.

Have you ever coded anything in your life? I'm guessing that answer is "no".

Yes I have but thats irrelevant. I have worked in IT in development as well as now in an operational role. The CPU is used way more doing evryday tasks. Again its why business pc's come with good cpu's but just motherboard GPU's.



FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.

Have you ever coded anything in your life? I'm guessing that answer is "no".

Yes I have but thats irrelevant. I have worked in IT in development as well as now in an operational role. The CPU is used way more doing evryday tasks. Again its why business pc's come with good cpu's but just motherboard GPU's.

You keep repeating that without the slightest understanding of why that's the case. Tablets are not PCs. They are not required to do the same things. Tablets are used for multimedia purposes faaaaaaaaar more than business PCs, which are built for pure data-crunching. To top that off, business PCs use cheap GPUs because even the most underpowered GPU can run an internet browser, which is the most demanding requirement of most business PCs (outside of operating system animations). Totally different beasts for totally different markets.

Go ahead and boot up Call of Duty on that business PC and let me know how that works out for you.

Anyway, I'm done with this asinine pissing contest. I don't care about the iPad 4 or Nexus 10. They're both quality tablets. I have coding work to finish tonight.




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man-bear-pig said:

iPad mini has sold more in its first 3 days than the highest selling Android tablet (Nexus 7) has sold in the past month.

The mini sold 1 million in its first 3 days, and google have recently announced that they are now shipping 1 million Nexus 7's per month. This means that the iPad mini has sold more in 3 days than the Nexus 7 has in the past 1 1/2 months probably (because they won't have sold all the units they've shipped).

There were huge supply constraints on the iPad mini too; it was sold out basically everywhere. Android simply can't compete with Apple in the tablet market. Time will tell if MS can...

http://www.androidauthority.com/tablet-market-android-mid-2013-130917/

Can't compete hey?

Could have fooled me.



 

 

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rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.

Have you ever coded anything in your life? I'm guessing that answer is "no".

Yes I have but thats irrelevant. I have worked in IT in development as well as now in an operational role. The CPU is used way more doing evryday tasks. Again its why business pc's come with good cpu's but just motherboard GPU's.

You keep repeating that without the slightest understanding of why that's the case. Tablets are not PCs. They are not required to do the same things. Tablets are used for multimedia purposes faaaaaaaaar more than business PCs, which are built for pure data-crunching. To top that off, business PCs use cheap GPUs because even the most underpowered GPU can run an internet browser, which is the most demanding requirement of most business PCs (outside of operating system animations). Totally different beasts for totally different markets.

Go ahead and boot up Call of Duty on that business PC and let me know how that works out for you.

Anyway, I'm done with this asinine pissing contest. I don't care about the iPad 4 or Nexus 10. They're both quality tablets. I have coding work to finish tonight.

Umm Tablets are pc's... and the instructio code is still the same, everything ina  PC is CPU dependant while not everything is gpu dependant. There is a reason basic video cards can blast through mundane tasks and stream 1080P video.... Is only certain tasks like gaming that stress the GPU.  A tablet is not used for anything more then a PC name 1? LMAO.

 

COD? I already said except gming but games on tablets are trash, and most people wont be buying a tablet for call of duty, Again multi-tasking and most everyday task use cpu a LOT more then gpu, that is tru for ANY device.



FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:
rocketpig said:
FatalInertia said:

You realise durijng normal use the gpu is barely taxed to right? It is still the cpu that processes it all, a gpu is not used nearly as much as the cpu thats a technoligical fact. Multi-tasking is especially a cpu thing.

And because of how iOS is written, multi-tasking isn't as CPU-intensive. It sandboxes apps and minimizes the footprint of each. It's not a system I'm terribly fond of but it works pretty well in mobile devices, minimizing the amount of CPU and RAM you need in a device while also extending battery life.


Doesnt change the fact its moe intensive on CPU then GPU.  CPu is way more important in a tablet then the gpu.

Have you ever coded anything in your life? I'm guessing that answer is "no".

Yes I have but thats irrelevant. I have worked in IT in development as well as now in an operational role. The CPU is used way more doing evryday tasks. Again its why business pc's come with good cpu's but just motherboard GPU's.

You're talking about ancient software written for an ancient time.  The iPhone radically changed people's expectations of how interfaces should look (swooshy animations and gliding transitions).  To implement this stuff well, you need GPU power, not CPU power (Apple pioneered the use of GPU accelerated window management as far back as OS X 10.2).  The reason iOS has always been more responsive than Android on comparable hardware is because of this mastery over the GPU.  The Nexus needed a fast CPU just to come close to the responsiveness of a two-year old iPhone.